Douglas Murray’s Insists that Regular Folks Should Shut the Fuck Up and Leave Commentary to “Experts” who have “Standards.” Jimmy Dore Responds

Douglas Murray, who tanked on Rogan, wants "standards" and complete reliance on "experts." Jimmy Dore reviews the track record of the expert class and their legacy media stenographers. I largely agree with Dore. The legacy media has almost zero credibility and the proof is in their track record. Those who still trust legacy media are infected with a mind virus. Murray claims he is for words he has sanitized: "Standards" and "experts." When Dave Smith drilled down on what Murray meant, it was clear that Murray wants the same thing the censorship-industrial complex wants: obedience by you and me and censorship for those who disagree with Murray.  Dore:

New York Post Article by Douglas Murray: 'Douglas Murray, so called Israel Hamas-Ukraine war expert's spew false info on Joe Rogan's podcast. There has to be a standard.' There is no standard in journalism. How about you start with the standard for journalism? Journalism got everything wrong about COVID. They got everything wrong about Russiagate. They get everything wrong about the Iraq War, the Libyan war, the Afghanistan War and the Ukraine war. They still won't tell people how it started and why. They've got everything wrong. They got the biggest story of their life wrong: COVID. They got ivermectin wrong. They got the vaccine transmission and contraction wrong. They got where the virus came from, who funded the virus. They got everything wrong. They got lockdowns wrong. They got masks wrong. There wasn't a thing they didn't get wrong. You know who got it right? Joe Rogan's Show. You know who got Russiagate right? This show.

You don't have to be an expert to know when someone's lying. To know when the war machine is lying, all I had to do is use my common sense. This is the establishment media and the Zionists losing. This is the Neocons losing the argument and so they want to shut people up by saying, "You don't get a right to say anything. We have to impose some standards." There's no standards when it comes to the establishment, corporate journalism. There's zero standards. They lie as they breathe. There isn't a thing they haven't lied about about, about COVID. There isn't a thing they didn't lie about, about Russiagate. There isn't a thing they didn't lie about January 6. There isn't a thing they haven't lied about when it comes to Ukraine war, Iraq War, the Libyan war, the Syrian war. The Afghanistan war was 20 years of straight lies as the Afghan Papers reveal. This idea that the corporate media has some sort of standards is a lie.

Dore aligned himself with Democrats until recent years, supporting Bernie Sanders in 2016 and 202. So did I (I canvassed for Sanders). Also voicing support for democrats until it went over the cliff on ideology/war/censorship/shitting on the middle class: Elon Musk, Tulsi Gabbard, RFK, Jr. , Joe Rogan, Kyrsten Sinema.

Here is the Rogan Podcast featuring Douglas Murray and Dave Smith. Watch it and make up your own mind, of course. But here, in my opinion, are two examples of  Murray arguing in bad faith. Murray is a guy who pontificates on anything and everything based on his English Degree. He gets almost all of his information from armchair adventures, just like you and me and most everyone else.

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NIH Muzzles Criticism of Israel

Trump admin is clearly violating First Amendment here. How did this happen, you might wonder. I'm starting to think of this as right-wing wokeness. And how did it happen that Israel has apparently dictated much of US foreign policy for decades? AIPAC $, perhaps?

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About the Pentagon’s Purge of Doves

Once again Glenn nails it. And once again, I cannot help but see US warmongering as a jobs program for our $1T industry that needs to keep blowing up people, cities and countries, ignoring its abysmal track record over the decades, to justify its existence.

Glenn further commented: "That Hegseth of all people is deemed insufficiently pro-war demonstrates the extremism of the DC war machine. He's enthusiastically bombing Yemen; got Trump to pardon US war criminals in Iraq; has cheered multiple wars. But any reluctance to attack Iran is supremely heretical."

Remember when Democrats were the anti-war party? Now both parties are hawkish, with some exceptions mainly among conservatives. If you doubt this, think back to when many self-proclaimed liberals displayed Ukrainian flags on their houses and cars. In this Xeet, Tucker Carlson continues to be a prominent conservative speaking out against US militarism:

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About Douglas Murray, “Experts” and War

I've often enjoyed listening to Douglas Murray, but he seems to have gone off the rails for two reasons: A) His enthusiasm for war as a solution to complex disputes and B) His wish to control the free flow of information between other people based on his claim that we need to shut up and rely on "experts," by which I assume he means credentialed experts.

In this segment, Joe Rogan and Dave Smith dismantle Murray with simple questions. Watch him dart to a new topic whenever he is challenged.

I would agree with Saagar Enjeti's description:

And here's a glaring irony pointed out by Enjeti:

As Dave Smith points out, during the pandemic, the "experts" got almost everything wrong. Murray has no response. The COVID error would include many of the following:

Here's a bigger irony. If only "experts" should weigh in on complex and important topics of the day, what does that say about democracy? Most of us voters are unwashed masses, uncredentialed in most things, yet we are asked to cast votes that will determine the fate of our country. Murray's attitude can be seen playing out in the EU (and elsewhere, including the US), where people are increasingly being denied the chance to vote for the candidates they support.

I'll end with this post by Mike Benz:

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