Jimmy Dore Comments on Bill Maher’s Meeting with Donald Trump
It's amazing how often it takes comedians to cut through the BS and tell us what's going on. Joe Rogan, Dave Smith, Russell Brand, Dave Chapelle, and Jimmy Dore, who never pulls a punch.
Douglas Murray’s Insists that Regular Folks Should Shut the Fuck Up and Leave Commentary to “Experts” who have “Standards.” Jimmy Dore Responds
Douglas Murray, who tanked on Rogan, wants "standards" and complete reliance on "experts." Jimmy Dore reviews the track record of the expert class and their legacy media stenographers. I largely agree with Dore. The legacy media has almost zero credibility and the proof is in their track record. Those who still trust legacy media are infected with a mind virus. Murray claims he is for words he has sanitized: "Standards" and "experts." When Dave Smith drilled down on what Murray meant, it was clear that Murray wants the same thing the censorship-industrial complex wants: obedience by you and me and censorship for those who disagree with Murray. Dore:
New York Post Article by Douglas Murray: 'Douglas Murray, so called Israel Hamas-Ukraine war expert's spew false info on Joe Rogan's podcast. There has to be a standard.' There is no standard in journalism. How about you start with the standard for journalism? Journalism got everything wrong about COVID. They got everything wrong about Russiagate. They get everything wrong about the Iraq War, the Libyan war, the Afghanistan War and the Ukraine war. They still won't tell people how it started and why. They've got everything wrong. They got the biggest story of their life wrong: COVID. They got ivermectin wrong. They got the vaccine transmission and contraction wrong. They got where the virus came from, who funded the virus. They got everything wrong. They got lockdowns wrong. They got masks wrong. There wasn't a thing they didn't get wrong. You know who got it right? Joe Rogan's Show. You know who got Russiagate right? This show.
You don't have to be an expert to know when someone's lying. To know when the war machine is lying, all I had to do is use my common sense. This is the establishment media and the Zionists losing. This is the Neocons losing the argument and so they want to shut people up by saying, "You don't get a right to say anything. We have to impose some standards." There's no standards when it comes to the establishment, corporate journalism. There's zero standards. They lie as they breathe. There isn't a thing they haven't lied about about, about COVID. There isn't a thing they didn't lie about, about Russiagate. There isn't a thing they didn't lie about January 6. There isn't a thing they haven't lied about when it comes to Ukraine war, Iraq War, the Libyan war, the Syrian war. The Afghanistan war was 20 years of straight lies as the Afghan Papers reveal. This idea that the corporate media has some sort of standards is a lie.
Dore aligned himself with Democrats until recent years, supporting Bernie Sanders in 2016 and 202. So did I (I canvassed for Sanders). Also voicing support for democrats until it went over the cliff on ideology/war/censorship/shitting on the middle class: Elon Musk, Tulsi Gabbard, RFK, Jr. , Joe Rogan, Kyrsten Sinema.
Here is the Rogan Podcast featuring Douglas Murray and Dave Smith. Watch it and make up your own mind, of course. But here, in my opinion, are two examples of Murray arguing in bad faith. Murray is a guy who pontificates on anything and everything based on his English Degree. He gets almost all of his information from armchair adventures, just like you and me and most everyone else.
About Douglas Murray, “Experts” and War
I've often enjoyed listening to Douglas Murray, but he seems to have gone off the rails for two reasons: A) His enthusiasm for war as a solution to complex disputes and B) His wish to control the free flow of information between other people based on his claim that we need to shut up and rely on "experts," by which I assume he means credentialed experts.
In this segment, Joe Rogan and Dave Smith dismantle Murray with simple questions. Watch him dart to a new topic whenever he is challenged.
I would agree with Saagar Enjeti's description:
And here's a glaring irony pointed out by Enjeti:
As Dave Smith points out, during the pandemic, the "experts" got almost everything wrong. Murray has no response. The COVID error would include many of the following:
Here's a bigger irony. If only "experts" should weigh in on complex and important topics of the day, what does that say about democracy? Most of us voters are unwashed masses, uncredentialed in most things, yet we are asked to cast votes that will determine the fate of our country. Murray's attitude can be seen playing out in the EU (and elsewhere, including the US), where people are increasingly being denied the chance to vote for the candidates they support.
I'll end with this post by Mike Benz:
Maine Legislature Censures Member for Commenting on Male Participation in Female Sports.
Among other things, this situation raises First Amendment issues:
Three weeks ago, Representative Laurel Libby of Maine’s 64th District posted on Facebook that a high school athlete won first place in girls’ pole vaulting at the Class B state championship after having competed the year before in the boys’ event and finishing in a tie for fifth place.Libby’s post is constitutionally protected. She was speaking out about the policy in her state, set by the Maine High School Principals Association, that a high school athlete may participate in competitions for the gender with which they identify. Her post was also part of a nationwide debate. Maine Governor Janet Mills and President Trump have publicly sparred over the president’s executive order proposing to cut off education funding if states do not ban transgender athletes from competing in girls’ sports.
But just days after Libby’s post, the Maine House speaker and majority leader demanded she take it down. When she refused, the majority leader introduced a censure resolution — to be heard in the House the next day — because Libby’s post had included photos and the first name of the student, who is a minor. Libby sought to defend herself in the hastily called House vote, but was repeatedly cut off. The censure resolution passed 75-70 on a party-line vote.
If all the censure did was express disapproval of Libby’s actions, that would be one thing.
A state legislative body is entitled to express displeasure with a member’s actions, which by itself does not violate the First Amendment, as the Supreme Court recently ruled.
But in Libby’s case, the Maine House went further, much further. When Libby refused to apologize for her protected speech, the House speaker declared she would be barred from speaking on the House floor or voting on any legislation until she capitulated. Thus, the House majority party has precluded Libby from doing her job and effectively disenfranchised her constituents, end-running Maine constitutional provisions that say a representative cannot be expelled absent a two-thirds vote or recall election.
Silence Versus Belief
Can you assume that people believe you merely because they stop debating you? Rob Henderson explains:
Clever activists know how exploit the weakness of professors. Most of the people who become professors just love their field—they don't want to wade into activism or political disputes. A lot of them are introverts, or at the very least, they just want to be left alone to do their work. So if activists flood a professor’s inbox with emails, call their department nonstop, pressure the department, and demand to know why they haven’t signed a petition or denounced a colleague, eventually, a lot of them will just give in.At some point, the professor just wants the noise to stop. They’ll sign whatever, release whatever statement, do whatever it takes to be left alone. It’s not that they believe in the cause—it’s just easier to give in. They don’t want to get dragged into a political or cultural fight; they just want to keep their head down and focus on their work. A lot of it, frankly, comes down to cowardice—figuring out the fastest way to make the problem go away.
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