I am not sure what is more troubling – Palin dodging this question, or doing it sitting right next to John McCain. Anyone else think they see the realization that his campaign is hurtling over the bridge to nowhere flash over his face? Perhaps I am imagining things.
This is appalling. Blowing up abortion clinics does count as terrorism, Governor Palin. [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hu1NeI4M1k[/youtube]
Oh gee, I guess I am not quite done. So tired of the hypocrisy that I have to share this, too.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLyTqVL4zDI&feature=related[/youtube]
Karl, I was born in Pennsylvania. Pennsylvania, like many other states, does not use a long form as the official certificate.In fact there is no standard national birth certificate. I don't know hwo many times I have been required to prove that my birth certificate is real. It was readily accepted by the US Air Force as evidence in aquiring a civilian security clearance to Warner-Robbins AFB in connection with a contract job for the company I worked for at the time.
It is a trivial matter to authorize a third party to request a copy of your birth certificate. That's what I had to do to pass the background check.
Part of the nature of the internet is such that anyone can put anything on the web and claim it as fact, even if it is when it obviously is not. But some lies are more insidous. Many of the worst propaganda has references pointing to other sites which an analysis of proasiac style indicates are written by the same author under an assumed name. You can find any thing to support what you want to believe, and most people do just that.
So, if you believe in something strongly enough, does it become reality? Not in my universe. Small kids believe in Santa Claus, the tooth fairy, and the Easter Bunny, but they aren't real. Politicians want us to believe that by giving us $300 to spend on cheap imported Chinese junk we will create jobs for Americans. And pundits that want the people to believe they are perfect, want us to believe that an easily authenticated document is a fake.
Skepticism should be applied to all claims equally, not selectively to those statements which disagree with your world view. A Hawiian birth certificate is easily authenticated. A Kenyan birth certificate is not so easy. Being skeptic means not buying in to anyone's lie, no matter how convincing.
I can see the matter will need to be decided by the Supreme Court. The other states that are pushing for a simple fact check could cause insurmountable damage to the workings of the Electoral College between now and January. If a state Superior court or state legislature tries to validate or invalidate votes cast this could be a maze to walk through.
Niklaus Pfirsig Says:
"It is a trivial matter to authorize a third party to request a copy of your birth certificate. That’s what I had to do to pass the background check."
Then why didn't Obama release it long ago when the questions were raised about each candidate.
McCain gave the credentials which were clearly as stated.
In days there will be a certified translation of an audio tape from Sarah Obama (His African Grandmother) four years ago that stated in her native language that she was present in the African Hospital the day Obama was born.
Tim Hogan says:
The rest of you, leave this far right wing weblog echochambering yobbo yapper alone to go back to his paranoid delusions.
If I'm far right, does that make you centrist or far left?
I don't believe most of the people you try to intimidate this way on this blog would respect wuch of what you just had to say.
Nope, you're just a yapper, like a little chihuahua doggie that need to be put into its crATE TO GO TO SLEEP!
Oh man, can we get the attention back to me now?? First Karl, then Erik, now it's Karl again. Attention whoring has become quite a job here with all the competition around.
PL, you have to have a fruitcake theory to get any attention around here these days!
OK, it's been a few days, where's this certified audio tape? Maybe he left it on the grassy knoll? Or maybe he had a sudden attack of conscience about putting lies in the mouth of one of Obama's grandmas in order to call his other grandma a liar.
Also, isn't it interesting that in the recent spate of smears, WND makes no mention of its own earlier "investigation" of Obama's Hawaii birth certificate:
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http://worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&a…
Karl, I think Tim is right, if a bit unfortunate in his wording. By buying this unfounded smear you have earned yourself a place in the tinfoil hat brigade.
Vicki: I'm trying to control my schadenfreude impulses, but I confess that your "tinfoil hat brigade" comment had me chuckling out loud . . .
I thought if one of your parents was a US citizen you also automatically had the US citizenship?
Proj: The rule in part is "natural born citizen" for president. Constitution Article 2, Clause 5: Qualifications for office
There are now a total of ten states requesting that he produce the goods. The actual document. The person going after him is/was a Hillary supporter and He started early in the summer but got no where with Barry ot the DNC.
Here are some posts some may find informative.
http://westernfrontamerica.com/2008/10/29/berg-ob…
http://www.stoptheaclu.com/archives/2008/11/01/wi…
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2120843/po…
EXCLUSIVE LATE BREAKING NEWS! PHOTOS PROVE THAT OBAMA IS MALCOLM X"S LOVE CHILD!
Read the short version at gawker.com or the original
"insanely long and convoluted post"
So, got that, all you insane conspirancy theorists who think that Obama's parents, grandparents, the state of Hawaii, factcheck.org, politifact.com the United States Congress. the United States Department of State and hundreds of others are all implicated in a plot to conceal Obama's birth in Kenya: This proves conclusively that Obama is a 100% American just like all the other illegitimate children of black separatist revolutionaries and white college students. So STFU!!!
🙂 Have a nice day!
Why would both Hawaii and KENYA order the birth records sealed?
Why are the only eye wirtnesses of the birth not allowed to talk to any one until after the election?
Why are so many others records of this candidate sealed or under wraps until after the election? Does anyone believe in the rights of discovery, or is secrecy the only thing we can count upon from the past, present and future of this candidate?
If this is how you want a president to deal with who he really is, what his life story really is, what he has written about and who provided for his education then you need to rethink what you believe and why you believe it.
Karl: You are inconsistent in your skepticism again. Where are Sarah Palin's or John McCain's medical records, for starters?
On what information are you assuming that the eye witnesses to the birth are not allowed to talk? I've heard nothing about this before. Why would it matter if the Hawaii birth certificate (and the Hawaii newspaper birth announcement) are genuine, which they really truly appear to be?
Karl: You know enough to be dangerous. Even if you believe everything in the links you provided above, no "states" are requesting anything regarding Obama's proof of birth. Yes, there are people with unwarranted suspicions that resemble your own unwarranted suspicion, who have asked courts to make rulings, but that doesn't mean that any "state" is taking any action at all, other than dismissing these frivolous suits.
Karl:
There is no way the "born in Kenya" story can be true, because Barack Obama, Sr. is not this Barack's dad, that's just a cover story to hide the fact that he is Malcolm X's love child!!! Obama's father is a 100% red-blooded American Black Muslim revolutionary!!! Why have Obama and Malcom X's other children not agreed to DNA testing? It is very suspicious.
Karl, I challenge you to read the exhaustively researched article about Obama's true parentage which I linked to earlier. I would be very surprised if you could come up with a point by point rebuttal of the information there.
I am going to file a lawsuit demanding the results of DNA testing on Obama and his half-siblings. Also, I have documentary evidence, which I will release in a few days, that the lawyer behind the birth certificate campaign is part of a Zionist-Masonic conspiracy with the Trilateral Commission. This is the group behind the chemical poisoning of the American population through chemtrails Wake up America before it's too late!!!!!
Audio Tape has been released
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGWcD5OHm08
Court materials with working links at
http://obamacrimes.com/
The following are court evidence presented. (links not active here)
U.S. Supreme Court Writ of Certiorari – PDF (202 KB)
Exhibit Charter Schools Rainbow Edition Newsletter – PDF (658 KB)
Exhibit The Star Bulletin – Obama born in different hostpital – PDF (43 KB)
Exhibit Plaintiff Request for Admissions to Obama – PDF (80 KB)
Application to Justice David H. Souter for a stay of the Presidential Elections and/or a Temp. Injunction staying the Presidential Election pending resolution of the Writ of Certiorari – PDF (206 KB)
Affidavit of Bishop Ron McRae – PDF (3707 KB)
Exhibits for Affidavit of Bishop Ron McRae – PDF (178 KB)
Affidavit of Reverend Kweli Shuhubia – PDF (146 KB)
Two other sites of focused information are
http://comments.obamacrimes.com/blog/_archives/20…
and
http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/2008/06/10/obam…
Karl: Regarding the above comment, OF COURSE there are people who will claim anything at all to try to keep Obama from becoming president. Nothing above amounts to any official government body suggestion anything in the least that Obama has done anything improper.
All it take to file a lawsuit is to pay a filing fee and hand the clerk something you've typed out. That's why we have courts, of course, to separate wild claims from provable claims. I'm entirely convinced that your claims regarding Obama are wild, unsubstantiated claims based on nothing at all.
Write back about this further if/when a court actually rules that Obama was not born in Hawaii. I won't be holding my breath on that.
Karl, I can't believe you are going along with the mainstream media in ignoring the overwhelming evidence that Malcom X was Obama's real father.
In other news, fear of Obama is motivating people to do some very irrational things:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_NGAYR7RHfQ
There must be a name for this particular pathology that automatically labels anything smacking of "mainstream" as deliberately misleading or outright lies.
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar….
I am pregnant with Karl's baby. Am I now interesting enough? 😀
It depends. Was this an immaculate conception?
projektleiterin, Are you sure that wasn't me? I was messing around with a weird looking piece of equipment that my cousin snuck out of area 51, and sent to me via UPS, and it zapped me and for a hour or two I was in two places at the same time. One place looked like the MIT robotics lab and the other was with a sexy fraulein… or maybe she was a hausfrau, or …
Maybe that was just a dream.
Projektleiterin,
I can vouch for the nature of your recent statement – sarcastic fiction.
I trust you also can tell the difference between facts, values, opinions, interpreted scientific data, beliefs and outright fiction.
I try to play by the rules – I guess that doesn't apply to many of the authors here who use sarcasm as a tool of abuse and intimidation.