<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" > <channel> <title> Comments on: Torture memos, torture judge Jay Bybee </title> <atom:link href="https://dangerousintersection.org/2009/04/18/torture-memos-torture-judge-jay-bybee/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /> <link>https://dangerousintersection.org/2009/04/18/torture-memos-torture-judge-jay-bybee/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=torture-memos-torture-judge-jay-bybee&utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=torture-memos-torture-judge-jay-bybee</link> <description>Human Animals at the Crossroads of Science, Religion, Media and Culture</description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 19:53:45 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod> hourly </sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency> 1 </sy:updateFrequency> <item> <title> By: Erich Vieth </title> <link>https://dangerousintersection.org/2009/04/18/torture-memos-torture-judge-jay-bybee/comment-page-1/#comment-38721</link> <dc:creator><![CDATA[Erich Vieth]]></dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 19:53:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://dangerousintersection.org/?p=6232#comment-38721</guid> <description><![CDATA[Gene Lyons of Salon.com raises many good points about Judge Bybee in his article, "<a href="http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2009/04/23/lyons/index.html" rel="nofollow">The Shaming of America</a>." <blockquote> So here's my question: Would Bybee, in his capacity as a federal judge, uphold a murder conviction in which witnesses had been waterboarded? A rape confession? Would it be all right for police to induce confessions by keeping suspects awake for 11 days by shackling them naked in a standing position, dousing them with ice water and smashing their heads into a wall? How about cramming them into coffin-size boxes for weeks? He thought that appropriate for terror suspects.</blockquote> ]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gene Lyons of Salon.com raises many good points about Judge Bybee in his article, "<a href="http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2009/04/23/lyons/index.html" rel="nofollow">The Shaming of America</a>."</p> <blockquote> <p>So here's my question: Would Bybee, in his capacity as a federal judge, uphold a murder conviction in which witnesses had been waterboarded? A rape confession? Would it be all right for police to induce confessions by keeping suspects awake for 11 days by shackling them naked in a standing position, dousing them with ice water and smashing their heads into a wall? How about cramming them into coffin-size boxes for weeks? He thought that appropriate for terror suspects.</p></blockquote> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item> <title> By: Erich Vieth </title> <link>https://dangerousintersection.org/2009/04/18/torture-memos-torture-judge-jay-bybee/comment-page-1/#comment-38664</link> <dc:creator><![CDATA[Erich Vieth]]></dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 07:16:13 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://dangerousintersection.org/?p=6232#comment-38664</guid> <description><![CDATA[From the <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30338039/" rel="nofollow">NYT</a>: <blockquote>[W]aterboarding had been prosecuted by the United States in war-crimes trials after World War II and was a well-documented favorite of despotic governments since the Spanish Inquisition; one waterboard used under Pol Pot was even on display at the genocide museum in Cambodia. [T]he former military psychologist who played a central role in persuading C.I.A. officials to use the harsh methods had never conducted a real interrogation</blockquote> ]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30338039/" rel="nofollow">NYT</a>: </p> <blockquote><p>[W]aterboarding had been prosecuted by the United States in war-crimes trials after World War II and was a well-documented favorite of despotic governments since the Spanish Inquisition; one waterboard used under Pol Pot was even on display at the genocide museum in Cambodia. </p> <p>[T]he former military psychologist who played a central role in persuading C.I.A. officials to use the harsh methods had never conducted a real interrogation</p></blockquote> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item> <title> By: Erich Vieth </title> <link>https://dangerousintersection.org/2009/04/18/torture-memos-torture-judge-jay-bybee/comment-page-1/#comment-38651</link> <dc:creator><![CDATA[Erich Vieth]]></dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 18:14:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://dangerousintersection.org/?p=6232#comment-38651</guid> <description><![CDATA[According to <a href="http://pr.thinkprogress.org/2009/04/pr20090421/index.html" rel="nofollow">Think Progress</a>: <blockquote>The techniques Bybee approved are illegal by U.S. statute and an international treaty to which the U.S. is a signatory. Bybee attempted to give legal cover to illegal acts, and thus broke the ethical, professional, and legal standards that govern lawyers. For this, Judge Jay Bybee should be impeached. </blockquote> ]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to <a href="http://pr.thinkprogress.org/2009/04/pr20090421/index.html" rel="nofollow">Think Progress</a>:</p> <blockquote><p>The techniques Bybee approved are illegal by U.S. statute and an international treaty to which the U.S. is a signatory. Bybee attempted to give legal cover to illegal acts, and thus broke the ethical, professional, and legal standards that govern lawyers. For this, Judge Jay Bybee should be impeached. </p></blockquote> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item> <title> By: Mindy Carney </title> <link>https://dangerousintersection.org/2009/04/18/torture-memos-torture-judge-jay-bybee/comment-page-1/#comment-38645</link> <dc:creator><![CDATA[Mindy Carney]]></dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 14:56:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://dangerousintersection.org/?p=6232#comment-38645</guid> <description><![CDATA[Dang, Erich, you took the words right out of my keyboard! Actually, I was going to say to Tony that I don't see it as much Machiavellian as politically astute. If he openly stated that he was all for prosecution, he'd come off as exercising a dangerous political agenda. Better to open the door and leave it open, as he has done, and allow the people's will to work the system, hopefully, for a change. I, for one, think it'd be damned lovely to hear that the "people's will" actually accomplished something. ]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dang, Erich, you took the words right out of my keyboard! Actually, I was going to say to Tony that I don't see it as much Machiavellian as politically astute. If he openly stated that he was all for prosecution, he'd come off as exercising a dangerous political agenda. Better to open the door and leave it open, as he has done, and allow the people's will to work the system, hopefully, for a change. </p> <p>I, for one, think it'd be damned lovely to hear that the "people's will" actually accomplished something. </p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item> <title> By: Erich Vieth </title> <link>https://dangerousintersection.org/2009/04/18/torture-memos-torture-judge-jay-bybee/comment-page-1/#comment-38644</link> <dc:creator><![CDATA[Erich Vieth]]></dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 14:52:44 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://dangerousintersection.org/?p=6232#comment-38644</guid> <description><![CDATA[In reply to <a href="https://dangerousintersection.org/2009/04/18/torture-memos-torture-judge-jay-bybee/comment-page-1/#comment-38643">Tony Coyle</a>. I applaud Obama's savvy, to the extent that he planned this. These are tenuous times (the only reason Obama could get elected is that McCain totally imploded, in my opinion). Therefore, political capital is precious. I suspect that Obama knew damned well that releasing the lightly redacted memos would cause a firestorm. I'm glad he overruled the opposition and let it fly. It's better to know than not know. Plus, I find the conservative arguments (that disclosing our torture methods will compromise national security) to be disingenuous. I'm hungry to know who gave the OK for the reprehensible torture techniques, all the up to Cheney and beyond. ]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://dangerousintersection.org/2009/04/18/torture-memos-torture-judge-jay-bybee/comment-page-1/#comment-38643">Tony Coyle</a>.</p> <p>I applaud Obama's savvy, to the extent that he planned this. These are tenuous times (the only reason Obama could get elected is that McCain totally imploded, in my opinion). Therefore, political capital is precious. I suspect that Obama knew damned well that releasing the lightly redacted memos would cause a firestorm. I'm glad he overruled the opposition and let it fly. It's better to know than not know. Plus, I find the conservative arguments (that disclosing our torture methods will compromise national security) to be disingenuous. I'm hungry to know who gave the OK for the reprehensible torture techniques, all the up to Cheney and beyond. </p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>