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		By: Erich Vieth		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erich Vieth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 23:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Glenn Greenwald:
 

 
The very notion of the &#034;Liberal Media&#034; is one of the most inane myths in American politics -- something spat out and repeated in the lowest right-wing sewers for so long that it has become conventional wisdom -- but Halperin&#039;s frequent vouching for that myth, in his role of &#034;journalist,&#034; illustrates all one needs to know about him. The media&#039;s contempt for both John Kerry and Al Gore was matched only by their reverence for George Bush&#039;s swagger. The first several months of media coverage this year was dominated by Jerimiah Wright, lapel pins, bowling scores, Bittergate and elitism. And it is highly unlikely that there has even been a time in American history when the media was as subservient to Government as they were during the Bush era. It&#039;s literally hard to imagine a claim that ought to be more discredited in general than the notion of the &#034;liberal media&#034; and its &#034;anti-Republican bias.&#034; 
 

  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/09/03/halperin/index.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/09/03...&lt;/a&gt; ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glenn Greenwald:</p>
<p>The very notion of the &quot;Liberal Media&quot; is one of the most inane myths in American politics &#8212; something spat out and repeated in the lowest right-wing sewers for so long that it has become conventional wisdom &#8212; but Halperin&#039;s frequent vouching for that myth, in his role of &quot;journalist,&quot; illustrates all one needs to know about him. The media&#039;s contempt for both John Kerry and Al Gore was matched only by their reverence for George Bush&#039;s swagger. The first several months of media coverage this year was dominated by Jerimiah Wright, lapel pins, bowling scores, Bittergate and elitism. And it is highly unlikely that there has even been a time in American history when the media was as subservient to Government as they were during the Bush era. It&#039;s literally hard to imagine a claim that ought to be more discredited in general than the notion of the &quot;liberal media&quot; and its &quot;anti-Republican bias.&quot; </p>
<p>  <a href="http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/09/03/halperin/index.html" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/09/03" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/09/03</a>&#8230; </p>
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		By: grumpypilgrim		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[grumpypilgrim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 21:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[For those interested, here is a more extensive analysis of McCain&#039;s V.P. pick:
  &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/12997/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/12997/&lt;/a&gt;.   It mentions one thing I didn&#039;t know:  McCain and Palin are almost total strangers to each other.  They&#039;ve apparently only met one time and only spoken to each other twice, the second time being when McCain called her last Sunday to ask her to be his running mate.  It will be interesting to see how McCain defends himself against charges that his choice was purely a political move that gave no consideration whatsoever to whether his V.P. would be competent to step into the role of President.  It will also be interesting to see what analysts and humorists say about McCain&#039;s choice -- for instance, Jay Leno observed last night that McCain&#039;s choice might have been about an old guy with health problems choosing who will be by his side to administer mouth-to-mouth when he collapses.  It&#039;s also interesting that, if he wanted a woman, he didn&#039;t pick Condoleezza Rice.  
 

 
Then again, for all we know, all those other folks that McCain could have chosen might have turned him down.  Being one of two candidates in a landslide election loss probably doesn&#039;t enhance a person&#039;s future political prospects. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those interested, here is a more extensive analysis of McCain&#039;s V.P. pick:<br />
  <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/12997/" rel="nofollow">http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/12997/</a>.   It mentions one thing I didn&#039;t know:  McCain and Palin are almost total strangers to each other.  They&#039;ve apparently only met one time and only spoken to each other twice, the second time being when McCain called her last Sunday to ask her to be his running mate.  It will be interesting to see how McCain defends himself against charges that his choice was purely a political move that gave no consideration whatsoever to whether his V.P. would be competent to step into the role of President.  It will also be interesting to see what analysts and humorists say about McCain&#039;s choice &#8212; for instance, Jay Leno observed last night that McCain&#039;s choice might have been about an old guy with health problems choosing who will be by his side to administer mouth-to-mouth when he collapses.  It&#039;s also interesting that, if he wanted a woman, he didn&#039;t pick Condoleezza Rice.  </p>
<p>Then again, for all we know, all those other folks that McCain could have chosen might have turned him down.  Being one of two candidates in a landslide election loss probably doesn&#039;t enhance a person&#039;s future political prospects. </p>
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		By: grumpypilgrim		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[grumpypilgrim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:34:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Further to Edgar&#039;s comment, chauvinism seems to be a trait of many men of McCain&#039;s generation.  In their era, women were expected to be homemakers, were chosen for their looks, and were expected to obey their husbands.  Which brings up another issue that troubles me about McCain&#039;s choice:  to what extent did McCain choose Palin with the expectation that she would, for lack of a better expression, shut up and stay in the kitchen?  I have no doubt in my mind that if Biden thought Obama was wrong, he&#039;d say so.  But what about Palin?  We already know McCain has a volatile temper, and that he can be especially condescending toward women (he reportedly once used the &#034;c&#034; word in public to refer to his wife), so what sort of dynamic could we expect to see between a President McCain and Vice-President Palin?  Does anyone seriously think McCain would listen to her or take her advice about anything, especially given that so many of McCain&#039;s campaign ads have tried to brand Obama as &#034;not ready to lead&#034;?  
 

 
No, the best explanation I&#039;ve heard so far for McCain&#039;s choice comes from progressive radio talk-show host Ed Schultz, who observed, &#034;If this isn&#039;t pandering, I don&#039;t know what is.&#034;  Palin is a hard-core, far-right-wing, evangelical Christian who supports prayer in school, believes in creationism, and absolutely opposes abortion.  Palin is McCain&#039;s way of playing the exact same trump card that got George W. into the White House:  if you can energize evangelicals to come to the polls, then their votes, plus those of mainstream Republicans, just might be all the votes you need.  Palin is window dressing designed to appeal to America&#039;s Christian extremists, many of whom would have otherwise seen no other reason to vote in November. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Further to Edgar&#039;s comment, chauvinism seems to be a trait of many men of McCain&#039;s generation.  In their era, women were expected to be homemakers, were chosen for their looks, and were expected to obey their husbands.  Which brings up another issue that troubles me about McCain&#039;s choice:  to what extent did McCain choose Palin with the expectation that she would, for lack of a better expression, shut up and stay in the kitchen?  I have no doubt in my mind that if Biden thought Obama was wrong, he&#039;d say so.  But what about Palin?  We already know McCain has a volatile temper, and that he can be especially condescending toward women (he reportedly once used the &quot;c&quot; word in public to refer to his wife), so what sort of dynamic could we expect to see between a President McCain and Vice-President Palin?  Does anyone seriously think McCain would listen to her or take her advice about anything, especially given that so many of McCain&#039;s campaign ads have tried to brand Obama as &quot;not ready to lead&quot;?  </p>
<p>No, the best explanation I&#039;ve heard so far for McCain&#039;s choice comes from progressive radio talk-show host Ed Schultz, who observed, &quot;If this isn&#039;t pandering, I don&#039;t know what is.&quot;  Palin is a hard-core, far-right-wing, evangelical Christian who supports prayer in school, believes in creationism, and absolutely opposes abortion.  Palin is McCain&#039;s way of playing the exact same trump card that got George W. into the White House:  if you can energize evangelicals to come to the polls, then their votes, plus those of mainstream Republicans, just might be all the votes you need.  Palin is window dressing designed to appeal to America&#039;s Christian extremists, many of whom would have otherwise seen no other reason to vote in November. </p>
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		By: grumpypilgrim		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 13:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The choice of Palin reminds me of so many other Republican appointments of incompetent people:  Brown (FEMA), Miers (Supreme Court), Quayle (V.P.), the list goes on. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The choice of Palin reminds me of so many other Republican appointments of incompetent people:  Brown (FEMA), Miers (Supreme Court), Quayle (V.P.), the list goes on. </p>
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		By: Edgar Montrose		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edgar Montrose]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 05:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[grumpypilgrim said:  &#034;But I do wonder how Ms. McCain will feel about this choice, given that John McCain has already dumped one wife for a newer model.&#034;
 

 
It&#039;s an embarrassingly catty thing to say, but someone has to:  McCain is being absolutely true to McCain.  First two trophy wives, now a trophy Vice President.  Clearly McCain has a &#034;Trophy Vice&#034; in more ways than one. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>grumpypilgrim said:  &quot;But I do wonder how Ms. McCain will feel about this choice, given that John McCain has already dumped one wife for a newer model.&quot;</p>
<p>It&#039;s an embarrassingly catty thing to say, but someone has to:  McCain is being absolutely true to McCain.  First two trophy wives, now a trophy Vice President.  Clearly McCain has a &quot;Trophy Vice&quot; in more ways than one. </p>
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