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		By: projektleiterin		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 15:43:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Does anybody think that the idea of marrying in your early twenties or younger and having a baby to be a good one? It kind of was normal, but nowadays most people at this age are considered to be too young, also because most will not have finished their eduation yet, but that was something people were once expected to do at this age. And what if maturity continues to telescope? People are now reaching their 80ies, fitter and healthier than their ancestors who died when they had barely hit their 40ies.
 

 
Anyway, I reached adulthood and was surprised to see how many adults suck. :D ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anybody think that the idea of marrying in your early twenties or younger and having a baby to be a good one? It kind of was normal, but nowadays most people at this age are considered to be too young, also because most will not have finished their eduation yet, but that was something people were once expected to do at this age. And what if maturity continues to telescope? People are now reaching their 80ies, fitter and healthier than their ancestors who died when they had barely hit their 40ies.</p>
<p>Anyway, I reached adulthood and was surprised to see how many adults suck. 😀 </p>
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		By: Erika Price		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Erika Price]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 10:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Xeno: I think you have a fantastic point here. The average 18-to-24 year old, could, with some difficulty, find a mediocre job that would pay for shelter, food, utilities, and minor luxury. But the average middle-class young adult doesn&#039;t want that. They want a cell phone with an expansive plan, a cable box with DVR, video games, movies, a respectable car, a home with many rooms, decent furniture, a vacation budget. Very few self-supporting young adults in either college or the workplace can afford to maintain the lifestyle they enjoyed in their childhood. Yet, to accept less seems impossible. 
 

 
I think if these young adults would stop assuming they &lt;i&gt;need&lt;/i&gt; a car, a big home or apartment, and oodles of electronics, they could arrive at a liveable level they could afford. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Xeno: I think you have a fantastic point here. The average 18-to-24 year old, could, with some difficulty, find a mediocre job that would pay for shelter, food, utilities, and minor luxury. But the average middle-class young adult doesn&#039;t want that. They want a cell phone with an expansive plan, a cable box with DVR, video games, movies, a respectable car, a home with many rooms, decent furniture, a vacation budget. Very few self-supporting young adults in either college or the workplace can afford to maintain the lifestyle they enjoyed in their childhood. Yet, to accept less seems impossible. </p>
<p>I think if these young adults would stop assuming they <i>need</i> a car, a big home or apartment, and oodles of electronics, they could arrive at a liveable level they could afford. </p>
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		By: Xeno		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Xeno]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Aug 2008 07:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The problem seems to have developed with the rise of consumer led behaviour. The Goal of which is you can have anything and everything and if you can&#039;t afford it then get it on credit. Consumerism also encourages crass/fake self expression because by doing so, it can sell you a lifestlye.
 

 
This mentality feeds into the ideals of the spoilt child in that they can have what they want, when they want it with responsiblity for payment being disassociated to a later date or being palmed off onto the parents. I have met too many twenty somethings that want to move out of home into a house with the same luxuries that that have at home. They want to have it all and are unwilling to go through the process of building up their own lives. To me this smacks of lazyness regarding taking responsibility for yourself, which is what this whole thing is really about. There are people out ther that are lazy and this extension of childhood is yet another expression of this and while parents endure it, the offspring get away with it. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem seems to have developed with the rise of consumer led behaviour. The Goal of which is you can have anything and everything and if you can&#039;t afford it then get it on credit. Consumerism also encourages crass/fake self expression because by doing so, it can sell you a lifestlye.</p>
<p>This mentality feeds into the ideals of the spoilt child in that they can have what they want, when they want it with responsiblity for payment being disassociated to a later date or being palmed off onto the parents. I have met too many twenty somethings that want to move out of home into a house with the same luxuries that that have at home. They want to have it all and are unwilling to go through the process of building up their own lives. To me this smacks of lazyness regarding taking responsibility for yourself, which is what this whole thing is really about. There are people out ther that are lazy and this extension of childhood is yet another expression of this and while parents endure it, the offspring get away with it. </p>
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		By: gatomjp		</title>
		<link>https://dangerousintersection.org/2006/06/24/a-new-age-of-immaturity/comment-page-1/#comment-9287</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 11:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Another factor contributing to the increased postponement of maturity has been a growing cultural aversion to &#034;growing up&#034;.
 

 
Ever since the anti-authoritarian era of the 60&#039;s, becoming an adult was seen as something to be avoided at all costs lest we become old and stuffy &#034;like them&#034;. &#034;Hope I die before I get old...&#034; expressed the feelings of many of that and subsequent generations.
 

 
The WWII generation couldn&#039;t wait to &#034;get out of short pants&#034;, as they used to say, and assume control of their lives. Since then, how many times in the last 40 years have we seen movies and television portray the sober, responsible, mature person as the bad guy and the young, brash, iconoclastic youth as the hero? I remember a particular episode of the TV show Friends in which Chandler Bing was having a near mental breakdown because he was being promoted to a position of responsibility in his company and would therefore have to &#034;grow up&#034;. His grandfather would have had a difficult time understanding his angst. I know MINE would! ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another factor contributing to the increased postponement of maturity has been a growing cultural aversion to &quot;growing up&quot;.</p>
<p>Ever since the anti-authoritarian era of the 60&#039;s, becoming an adult was seen as something to be avoided at all costs lest we become old and stuffy &quot;like them&quot;. &quot;Hope I die before I get old&#8230;&quot; expressed the feelings of many of that and subsequent generations.</p>
<p>The WWII generation couldn&#039;t wait to &quot;get out of short pants&quot;, as they used to say, and assume control of their lives. Since then, how many times in the last 40 years have we seen movies and television portray the sober, responsible, mature person as the bad guy and the young, brash, iconoclastic youth as the hero? I remember a particular episode of the TV show Friends in which Chandler Bing was having a near mental breakdown because he was being promoted to a position of responsibility in his company and would therefore have to &quot;grow up&quot;. His grandfather would have had a difficult time understanding his angst. I know MINE would! </p>
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		By: WhenIgrowup		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Dec 2006 04:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It is a true concern. Adults mascarading as children. Still there are many obvious and not so obvious reasons why an adult would live with parents at age 26 or more.  I didn&#039;t see this reason... Having raised 7 children (ages 19-29) from several backgrounds (his, mine, foster and divorced, orphaned, deserted with several religions) I have observed a pattern of maturity which corresponds with brain research.  Humans are impulsive, lack comprehension of long term consequences, and insert inexperienced opinion and wishes in place of judgement until about age 23.  Permanent actions they take before this age such as marriage, pregnancy, quitting the educational process, even buying a home have turned out to be something they now wish they&#039;d waited to do.  
 
At this time we have 2 offspring??? living at home. One is still immature at 19.  The other is 25 and mature. After the military he lived on his own for a year while attending college full time.Then he asked to return home to recieve the emotional and physical support family members naturally extend each other.  His actions are those of an adult who recognizes the long term advantages an education, and displays appreciation for the family by contributing labor, money, and respectful rolemodeling for his sibling.  Sometimes an adult goes home because it&#039;s home and they now can appreciate and contribute to its success.
 
Two of our children have taken the time to grow through each stage to adulthood, their foundations are firm, financially and psychologically.  Others would like do-overs because they jumped too fast. Two are still maturing to adulthood.  Still, each of them are expected to experience those many stages of growth that continue throughout life.  I have many, many years to figure out the who, what, or why of life but when I do finish growing up I want to be an old wise-woman. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a true concern. Adults mascarading as children. Still there are many obvious and not so obvious reasons why an adult would live with parents at age 26 or more.  I didn&#039;t see this reason&#8230; Having raised 7 children (ages 19-29) from several backgrounds (his, mine, foster and divorced, orphaned, deserted with several religions) I have observed a pattern of maturity which corresponds with brain research.  Humans are impulsive, lack comprehension of long term consequences, and insert inexperienced opinion and wishes in place of judgement until about age 23.  Permanent actions they take before this age such as marriage, pregnancy, quitting the educational process, even buying a home have turned out to be something they now wish they&#039;d waited to do.  </p>
<p>At this time we have 2 offspring??? living at home. One is still immature at 19.  The other is 25 and mature. After the military he lived on his own for a year while attending college full time.Then he asked to return home to recieve the emotional and physical support family members naturally extend each other.  His actions are those of an adult who recognizes the long term advantages an education, and displays appreciation for the family by contributing labor, money, and respectful rolemodeling for his sibling.  Sometimes an adult goes home because it&#039;s home and they now can appreciate and contribute to its success.</p>
<p>Two of our children have taken the time to grow through each stage to adulthood, their foundations are firm, financially and psychologically.  Others would like do-overs because they jumped too fast. Two are still maturing to adulthood.  Still, each of them are expected to experience those many stages of growth that continue throughout life.  I have many, many years to figure out the who, what, or why of life but when I do finish growing up I want to be an old wise-woman. </p>
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