<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" xmlns:media="http://search.yahoo.com/mrss/" > <channel> <title> Comments on: Star Trek’s Error: Spock’s lack of emotion would have made him irrational </title> <atom:link href="https://dangerousintersection.org/2006/05/04/star-trek%E2%80%99s-error-spock%E2%80%99s-lack-of-emotion-would-have-made-him-irrational/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /> <link>https://dangerousintersection.org/2006/05/04/star-trek%e2%80%99s-error-spock%e2%80%99s-lack-of-emotion-would-have-made-him-irrational/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=star-trek%25e2%2580%2599s-error-spock%25e2%2580%2599s-lack-of-emotion-would-have-made-him-irrational&utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=star-trek%25e2%2580%2599s-error-spock%25e2%2580%2599s-lack-of-emotion-would-have-made-him-irrational</link> <description>Human Animals at the Crossroads of Science, Religion, Media and Culture</description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2022 14:04:31 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod> hourly </sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency> 1 </sy:updateFrequency> <item> <title> By: Fernando </title> <link>https://dangerousintersection.org/2006/05/04/star-trek%e2%80%99s-error-spock%e2%80%99s-lack-of-emotion-would-have-made-him-irrational/comment-page-1/#comment-687071</link> <dc:creator><![CDATA[Fernando]]></dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2022 14:04:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://dangerousintersection.org/?p=146#comment-687071</guid> <description><![CDATA[In reply to <a href="https://dangerousintersection.org/2006/05/04/star-trek%e2%80%99s-error-spock%e2%80%99s-lack-of-emotion-would-have-made-him-irrational/comment-page-1/#comment-90">grumpypilgrim</a>. But not only that, the people who have lost the ability to experience coherent and sufficient emotional motivation have not lost their ability to think rationally, they can still think 1 plus 1 equals 2, they just don't care emotionally about the conclusion that 1 plus 1 equals 2. They remain able to think rationally they just don't have the emotional motivation to act on their rational thinking. Am I right? Isn't it two separate issues? For example, a person with complete emotional capacity and intellectual capacity can rationally conclude 1 plus 1 equals 2 but being too emotional, not having learned emotion control, he will choose to act against the conclusions of reason.]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://dangerousintersection.org/2006/05/04/star-trek%e2%80%99s-error-spock%e2%80%99s-lack-of-emotion-would-have-made-him-irrational/comment-page-1/#comment-90">grumpypilgrim</a>.</p> <p>But not only that, the people who have lost the ability to experience coherent and sufficient emotional motivation have not lost their ability to think rationally, they can still think 1 plus 1 equals 2, they just don’t care emotionally about the conclusion that 1 plus 1 equals 2.</p> <p>They remain able to think rationally they just don’t have the emotional motivation to act on their rational thinking. Am I right?</p> <p>Isn’t it two separate issues? For example, a person with complete emotional capacity and intellectual capacity can rationally conclude 1 plus 1 equals 2 but being too emotional, not having learned emotion control, he will choose to act against the conclusions of reason.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item> <title> By: Tim Hogan </title> <link>https://dangerousintersection.org/2006/05/04/star-trek%e2%80%99s-error-spock%e2%80%99s-lack-of-emotion-would-have-made-him-irrational/comment-page-1/#comment-47217</link> <dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim Hogan]]></dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:23:59 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://dangerousintersection.org/?p=146#comment-47217</guid> <description><![CDATA[Sorry Mike, your nerd quotient just went out the window, how else would it be that twice Spock declined to complete the Kohlinar Ceremony which would "purge himself of all emotion." The First time he wiped out was when he felt the presence of "Vyger" in the first Star Trek Movie, and the last just before he was to enter the Vulcan Science Academy and turned it down to go into Starfleet in the latest movie. Neiner, neiner,neiner! Oh and by the way the answers to the nerd questions posed to President Obama about "Dune" were: the name of the substance mad from the drowned sandworm: "Water of Life," and; the name of the tool used to call sandworms: "thumper," and; the Fremen name for the sandworms: "Shai hulud." YES, I am the biggest theist nerd on DI! ]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Mike, your nerd quotient just went out the window, how else would it be that twice Spock declined to complete the Kohlinar Ceremony which would "purge himself of all emotion."</p> <p>The First time he wiped out was when he felt the presence of "Vyger" in the first Star Trek Movie, and the last just before he was to enter the Vulcan Science Academy and turned it down to go into Starfleet in the latest movie. </p> <p>Neiner, neiner,neiner!</p> <p>Oh and by the way the answers to the nerd questions posed to President Obama about "Dune" were:</p> <p>the name of the substance mad from the drowned sandworm: "Water of Life," and;</p> <p>the name of the tool used to call sandworms: "thumper," and;</p> <p>the Fremen name for the sandworms: "Shai hulud."</p> <p>YES, I am the biggest theist nerd on DI! </p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item> <title> By: Erich Vieth </title> <link>https://dangerousintersection.org/2006/05/04/star-trek%e2%80%99s-error-spock%e2%80%99s-lack-of-emotion-would-have-made-him-irrational/comment-page-1/#comment-47203</link> <dc:creator><![CDATA[Erich Vieth]]></dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 19:39:17 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://dangerousintersection.org/?p=146#comment-47203</guid> <description><![CDATA[In reply to <a href="https://dangerousintersection.org/2006/05/04/star-trek%e2%80%99s-error-spock%e2%80%99s-lack-of-emotion-would-have-made-him-irrational/comment-page-1/#comment-47201">Mike Pulcinella</a>. Control your emotions, please, Mike. ]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://dangerousintersection.org/2006/05/04/star-trek%e2%80%99s-error-spock%e2%80%99s-lack-of-emotion-would-have-made-him-irrational/comment-page-1/#comment-47201">Mike Pulcinella</a>.</p> <p>Control your emotions, please, Mike. </p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item> <title> By: Mike Pulcinella </title> <link>https://dangerousintersection.org/2006/05/04/star-trek%e2%80%99s-error-spock%e2%80%99s-lack-of-emotion-would-have-made-him-irrational/comment-page-1/#comment-47201</link> <dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike Pulcinella]]></dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 18:27:11 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://dangerousintersection.org/?p=146#comment-47201</guid> <description><![CDATA[Blasphemers!!! All of you! If you think you've withstood the ire of religious fundamentalists by claiming that Jesus was misquoted and even worse...NOT GOD, you haven't seen anything like the wrath of Trekkies whose beloved icon you just TRASHED! Let me set the record straight. If any of you would have bothered to watch all 79 episodes of the original series at least 10 times each before spouting off your ignorance you'd have known that Mr. Spock certainly was NOT without emotion. First of all, the civilization of the planet Vulcan had long ago decided to CONTROL emotion, not merely suppress it, after nearly destroying themselves in a series of violent wars. Theirs is a rigorous discipline, not unlike Zen Buddhism here on Earth, wherein emotion is not allowed to unduly influence rationality. As a species they do experience love and anger but it is not expressed in a way that we would recognize. Further, Spock himself was half human and at some point in his life had to make the difficult decision whether to pursue his father's discipline of emotional control or allow his mother's side to blossom. Even infidels like yourselves know which path he took but there was always a struggle. Always the emotion was seething just below the surface and every so often, breaking out when Spock was under stress. Without emotion?? Hardly! At least...uhhh...that's what a friend -- I mean some NERD told me right before I beat him up!! Yeah, that's it, I beat him up! Trek NERD! Not me, HIM! ]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blasphemers!!! All of you! If you think you've withstood the ire of religious fundamentalists by claiming that Jesus was misquoted and even worse…NOT GOD, you haven't seen anything like the wrath of Trekkies whose beloved icon you just TRASHED!</p> <p>Let me set the record straight. If any of you would have bothered to watch all 79 episodes of the original series at least 10 times each before spouting off your ignorance you'd have known that Mr. Spock certainly was NOT without emotion. </p> <p>First of all, the civilization of the planet Vulcan had long ago decided to CONTROL emotion, not merely suppress it, after nearly destroying themselves in a series of violent wars. Theirs is a rigorous discipline, not unlike Zen Buddhism here on Earth, wherein emotion is not allowed to unduly influence rationality. As a species they do experience love and anger but it is not expressed in a way that we would recognize.</p> <p>Further, Spock himself was half human and at some point in his life had to make the difficult decision whether to pursue his father's discipline of emotional control or allow his mother's side to blossom. Even infidels like yourselves know which path he took but there was always a struggle. Always the emotion was seething just below the surface and every so often, breaking out when Spock was under stress.</p> <p>Without emotion?? Hardly! At least…uhhh…that's what a friend — I mean some NERD told me right before I beat him up!! Yeah, that's it, I beat him up! Trek NERD! Not me, HIM! </p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item> <title> By: NIklaus Pfirsig </title> <link>https://dangerousintersection.org/2006/05/04/star-trek%e2%80%99s-error-spock%e2%80%99s-lack-of-emotion-would-have-made-him-irrational/comment-page-1/#comment-47162</link> <dc:creator><![CDATA[NIklaus Pfirsig]]></dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 14:10:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://dangerousintersection.org/?p=146#comment-47162</guid> <description><![CDATA[About Spock: My understanding of the Spock character was that the characters denied their emotional side, yet it would occasionally show through. The famous "Amok Time" episode where Spock had to return to Vulcan for his nuptials is the best indication of this. It portrayed the biological urge to merge and the associated high emotions as being shrouded in ritual and law. ]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>About Spock:</p> <p> My understanding of the Spock character was that the characters denied their emotional side, yet it would occasionally show through. </p> <p> The famous "Amok Time" episode where Spock had to return to Vulcan for his nuptials is the best indication of this. It portrayed the biological urge to merge and the associated high emotions as being shrouded in ritual and law. </p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>