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	<title>Comments on: Andrew Sullivan on Mark Sanford</title>
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	<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 07:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Erich Vieth</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2009/06/24/andrew-sullivan-on-mark-sanford/comment-page-2/#comment-51134</link>
		<dc:creator>Erich Vieth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Sep 2009 06:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another family values conservative politician goes down in flames.  This time it's Michael Duvall is a conservative Republican state representative from Orange County, California. These family values "experts" need to shut up about sexual permissiveness of others and get their own houses in order.

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/09/gop_lawmakers_graphic_sex-bragging_caught_on_tape.php?ref=fpa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another family values conservative politician goes down in flames.  This time it&#8217;s Michael Duvall is a conservative Republican state representative from Orange County, California. These family values &#8220;experts&#8221; need to shut up about sexual permissiveness of others and get their own houses in order.</p>
<p><a href="http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/09/gop_lawmakers_graphic_sex-bragging_caught_on_tape.php?ref=fpa" rel="nofollow">http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/09/gop_lawmakers_graphic_sex-bragging_caught_on_tape.php?ref=fpa</a></p>
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		<title>By: Erich Vieth</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2009/06/24/andrew-sullivan-on-mark-sanford/comment-page-2/#comment-44682</link>
		<dc:creator>Erich Vieth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 04:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sanford and God have been busy figuring everything out.  

"One thing Mark Sanford isn't doing is resigning. Why? Because God Himself wants Mark Sanford to stay on as Governor of South Carolina. Just ask Mark Sanford."

This is a highly humorous read by Chris Kelly, called "God is my Doorman."  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chris-kelly/god-is-my-doorman-mark-sa_b_223472.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sanford and God have been busy figuring everything out.  </p>
<p>&#8220;One thing Mark Sanford isn&#8217;t doing is resigning. Why? Because God Himself wants Mark Sanford to stay on as Governor of South Carolina. Just ask Mark Sanford.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is a highly humorous read by Chris Kelly, called &#8220;God is my Doorman.&#8221;  <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chris-kelly/god-is-my-doorman-mark-sa_b_223472.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/chris-kelly/god-is-my-doorman-mark-sa_b_223472.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mindy Carney</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2009/06/24/andrew-sullivan-on-mark-sanford/comment-page-2/#comment-44070</link>
		<dc:creator>Mindy Carney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And my only problem with her piece, and with the mindset it mirrors, is that last bit about sinning liberally, as if "real" conservatives are the fighters of evil and liberals are out there sinning away and fighting only for our right to do so.  

What "Marco" did to his family and state was despicable, and while I understand her play on words, using "liberally" in the sense of "amply," she still insinuates the obsolete meaning of "without moral restraint."  

Even though according to the dictionary, that meaning is obsolete, it remains the meaning neo-cons love to have equated with their non-conservative brethren, and it annoys me to no end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And my only problem with her piece, and with the mindset it mirrors, is that last bit about sinning liberally, as if &#8220;real&#8221; conservatives are the fighters of evil and liberals are out there sinning away and fighting only for our right to do so.  </p>
<p>What &#8220;Marco&#8221; did to his family and state was despicable, and while I understand her play on words, using &#8220;liberally&#8221; in the sense of &#8220;amply,&#8221; she still insinuates the obsolete meaning of &#8220;without moral restraint.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Even though according to the dictionary, that meaning is obsolete, it remains the meaning neo-cons love to have equated with their non-conservative brethren, and it annoys me to no end.</p>
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		<title>By: Erich Vieth</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2009/06/24/andrew-sullivan-on-mark-sanford/comment-page-2/#comment-44067</link>
		<dc:creator>Erich Vieth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:56:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maureen Dowd DOES hit it well when she talks about Mark and his alter-ego, Marco:



&lt;blockquote&gt;Mark was the self-righteous, Bible-thumping prig who pressed for Bill Clinton’s impeachment; Marco was the un-self-conscious Lothario, canoodling with Maria in Buenos Aires, throwing caution to the e-wind about their “soul-mate feel,” her tan lines, her curves, “the erotic beauty of you holding yourself (or two magnificent parts of yourself) in the faded glow of night’s light.”

Mark is a conservative railing against sinners; Marco sins liberally. Mark opposes gay marriage as a threat to traditional marriage. Marco thinks nothing of risking his own traditional marriage, and celebrates transgressive relationships. &lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maureen Dowd DOES hit it well when she talks about Mark and his alter-ego, Marco:</p>
<blockquote><p>Mark was the self-righteous, Bible-thumping prig who pressed for Bill Clinton’s impeachment; Marco was the un-self-conscious Lothario, canoodling with Maria in Buenos Aires, throwing caution to the e-wind about their “soul-mate feel,” her tan lines, her curves, “the erotic beauty of you holding yourself (or two magnificent parts of yourself) in the faded glow of night’s light.”</p>
<p>Mark is a conservative railing against sinners; Marco sins liberally. Mark opposes gay marriage as a threat to traditional marriage. Marco thinks nothing of risking his own traditional marriage, and celebrates transgressive relationships. </p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Mindy Carney</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2009/06/24/andrew-sullivan-on-mark-sanford/comment-page-2/#comment-44065</link>
		<dc:creator>Mindy Carney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And now, the brilliant :::cough, cough::: Rush Limbaugh finally gets to the bottom of Mark Sanford's lapse of judgment. Sanford snapped because his efforts to move the country in the "right" direction have been undermined, nay, completely derailed, by our evil president.  OF COURSE the governor needed comfort in the arms of a paramour.  Who wouldn't??  It's Obama's fault!!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/25/limbaugh-blames-sanfords_n_220993.html

Except that it isn't, and I think Maureen Dowd sums it up best:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/28/opinion/28dowd.html?_r=1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And now, the brilliant :::cough, cough::: Rush Limbaugh finally gets to the bottom of Mark Sanford&#8217;s lapse of judgment. Sanford snapped because his efforts to move the country in the &#8220;right&#8221; direction have been undermined, nay, completely derailed, by our evil president.  OF COURSE the governor needed comfort in the arms of a paramour.  Who wouldn&#8217;t??  It&#8217;s Obama&#8217;s fault!!</p>
<p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/25/limbaugh-blames-sanfords_n_220993.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/25/limbaugh-blames-sanfords_n_220993.html</a></p>
<p>Except that it isn&#8217;t, and I think Maureen Dowd sums it up best:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/28/opinion/28dowd.html?_r=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/28/opinion/28dowd.html?_r=1</a></p>
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		<title>By: Karl</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2009/06/24/andrew-sullivan-on-mark-sanford/comment-page-2/#comment-43892</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 17:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would agree with Eric concerning most politicians personal probems, as long as the public isn't financing them and providing an above the law mentality that provides for onging opportunities for the fulfillment of those personal problems.

As these cases so often do, they usually end up going back to the money trail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would agree with Eric concerning most politicians personal probems, as long as the public isn&#8217;t financing them and providing an above the law mentality that provides for onging opportunities for the fulfillment of those personal problems.</p>
<p>As these cases so often do, they usually end up going back to the money trail.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Tiedemann</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2009/06/24/andrew-sullivan-on-mark-sanford/comment-page-2/#comment-43890</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Tiedemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 14:13:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, grumpy...they're thinking, "Hell, if we let gays get married, we won't have a leg to stand on when it comes to making straights feel GUILTY about having sex!"  Leverage, man.  Gotta think in terms of leverage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, grumpy&#8230;they&#8217;re thinking, &#8220;Hell, if we let gays get married, we won&#8217;t have a leg to stand on when it comes to making straights feel GUILTY about having sex!&#8221;  Leverage, man.  Gotta think in terms of leverage.</p>
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		<title>By: grumpypilgrim</title>
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		<dc:creator>grumpypilgrim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jun 2009 06:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This must be what people on the religious right are thinking about when they accuse homosexuals of trying to destroy marriage.  Apparently they think that if homosexuals are permitted to marry each other, it's going to cause happily married men to fly to places like Argentina to meet with their mistresses while leaving their loving families back here in America to wonder about the true meaning of Father's Day.  At least, that's how I imagine religious crackpots think about this.  How else could homosexuals 'destroy' marriage?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This must be what people on the religious right are thinking about when they accuse homosexuals of trying to destroy marriage.  Apparently they think that if homosexuals are permitted to marry each other, it&#8217;s going to cause happily married men to fly to places like Argentina to meet with their mistresses while leaving their loving families back here in America to wonder about the true meaning of Father&#8217;s Day.  At least, that&#8217;s how I imagine religious crackpots think about this.  How else could homosexuals &#8216;destroy&#8217; marriage?</p>
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		<title>By: Erich Vieth</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2009/06/24/andrew-sullivan-on-mark-sanford/comment-page-1/#comment-43760</link>
		<dc:creator>Erich Vieth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 18:05:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here's Alec Baldwin's take:

Now is a wonderful opportunity to show the country what Democrats/liberals/progressives/unaligned learned from the Clinton era. Whatever personal problems that public officials deal with privately, leave them alone. This could happen to anyone, in any state, regardless of party. Why make the voters of South Carolina suffer while Sanford is skewered? If he wants to resign, so be it. If not, let him deal with it in private.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alec-baldwin/dont-take-the-bait_b_220402.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s Alec Baldwin&#8217;s take:</p>
<p>Now is a wonderful opportunity to show the country what Democrats/liberals/progressives/unaligned learned from the Clinton era. Whatever personal problems that public officials deal with privately, leave them alone. This could happen to anyone, in any state, regardless of party. Why make the voters of South Carolina suffer while Sanford is skewered? If he wants to resign, so be it. If not, let him deal with it in private.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alec-baldwin/dont-take-the-bait_b_220402.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alec-baldwin/dont-take-the-bait_b_220402.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tim Hogan</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2009/06/24/andrew-sullivan-on-mark-sanford/comment-page-1/#comment-43746</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Hogan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If a blue dress Gov. Sanford's semen did reach, the South Carolina Legislature must impeach!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If a blue dress Gov. Sanford&#8217;s semen did reach, the South Carolina Legislature must impeach!!!</p>
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