Comments on: No link between the Thimerosal used in vaccines and autism http://dangerousintersection.org/2009/06/17/no-link-between-the-thimerosal-used-in-vaccines-and-autism/ Human Animals at the Crossroads of Culture, Science, Religion and Media Mon, 22 Mar 2010 06:21:14 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Niklaus Pfirsig http://dangerousintersection.org/2009/06/17/no-link-between-the-thimerosal-used-in-vaccines-and-autism/comment-page-1/#comment-44718 Niklaus Pfirsig Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:52:34 +0000 http://dangerousintersection.org/?p=7603#comment-44718 I, for one am happy to see real science being used to investigate autism and other ailments that are on the increase. I can only hope it doesn't degrade into the popular unproven theories-du-jour of the past. More research is needed in the pathology of these diseases before these hypotheses are published. over the years I have seen several autism "Theories" published along with "cures" A fellow by the name of John Wobus, who has an autistic son, had maintained a large list of collected knowlege of autism and autism reasearch, theoretical causes and treatments at http://www.autism-resources.com . I suggest starting with the FAQ. I, for one am happy to see real science being used to investigate autism and other ailments that are on the increase. I can only hope it doesn’t degrade into the popular unproven theories-du-jour of the past.

More research is needed in the pathology of these diseases before these hypotheses are published. over the years I have seen several autism “Theories” published along with “cures”

A fellow by the name of John Wobus, who has an autistic son, had maintained a large list of collected knowlege of autism and autism reasearch, theoretical causes and treatments at http://www.autism-resources.com . I suggest starting with the FAQ.

]]> By: Mindy Carney http://dangerousintersection.org/2009/06/17/no-link-between-the-thimerosal-used-in-vaccines-and-autism/comment-page-1/#comment-44679 Mindy Carney Wed, 01 Jul 2009 03:53:32 +0000 http://dangerousintersection.org/?p=7603#comment-44679 Exactly. I knew about that about the BPA risks in general, but did not realize a potential connection to autism had been spotted. Of course the DI folks were on it while I wasn't paying attention!! Exactly. I knew about that about the BPA risks in general, but did not realize a potential connection to autism had been spotted. Of course the DI folks were on it while I wasn’t paying attention!!

]]> By: Erich Vieth http://dangerousintersection.org/2009/06/17/no-link-between-the-thimerosal-used-in-vaccines-and-autism/comment-page-1/#comment-44568 Erich Vieth Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:26:06 +0000 http://dangerousintersection.org/?p=7603#comment-44568 Mindy: Investigating the effects of the chemicals with which we fill our homes and workplaces should be a national priority. I agree that the Bush Administration acted disgracefully for 8 years. See here: http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/04/29/risk-information-on-toxicity-of-commonly-used-chemicals-bottled-up-by-white-house/ Who knows what damage these chemicals are doing to us and to our children? Shouldn't we knock Michael Jackson off the front page for a few months while we ask these hard questions and demand answers? When we finally took the time to ask questions about BPA, we found out that it was bad news to expose our children to all of those hard clear plastics. http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/05/01/a-detailed-case-study-describes-how-dangerous-plastics-freely-work-their-way-into-your-house/ Knowledge = power. The inverse: lack of knowledge = lack of power = putting yourself and your family in danger. Mindy: Investigating the effects of the chemicals with which we fill our homes and workplaces should be a national priority. I agree that the Bush Administration acted disgracefully for 8 years. See here: http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/04/29/risk-information-on-toxicity-of-commonly-used-chemicals-bottled-up-by-white-house/

Who knows what damage these chemicals are doing to us and to our children? Shouldn’t we knock Michael Jackson off the front page for a few months while we ask these hard questions and demand answers?

When we finally took the time to ask questions about BPA, we found out that it was bad news to expose our children to all of those hard clear plastics. http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/05/01/a-detailed-case-study-describes-how-dangerous-plastics-freely-work-their-way-into-your-house/

Knowledge = power. The inverse: lack of knowledge = lack of power = putting yourself and your family in danger.

]]> By: Mindy Carney http://dangerousintersection.org/2009/06/17/no-link-between-the-thimerosal-used-in-vaccines-and-autism/comment-page-1/#comment-44530 Mindy Carney Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:38:29 +0000 http://dangerousintersection.org/?p=7603#comment-44530 I just came across this article by pediatrician Harvey Karp, regarding toxic environmental chemicals and autism. I have a strong gut feeling that they are going to find some definite connections as this study (finally) moves forward. Once again, thanks to Bushco, good research is beginning nearly a decade after it should have. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/harvey-karp/cracking-the-autism-riddl_b_221202.html I just came across this article by pediatrician Harvey Karp, regarding toxic environmental chemicals and autism. I have a strong gut feeling that they are going to find some definite connections as this study (finally) moves forward. Once again, thanks to Bushco, good research is beginning nearly a decade after it should have.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/harvey-karp/cracking-the-autism-riddl_b_221202.html

]]> By: Niklaus Pfirsig http://dangerousintersection.org/2009/06/17/no-link-between-the-thimerosal-used-in-vaccines-and-autism/comment-page-1/#comment-42620 Niklaus Pfirsig Thu, 18 Jun 2009 16:46:57 +0000 http://dangerousintersection.org/?p=7603#comment-42620 In my studies of autism research topics, I quickly dismissed Thimerasol as a smokescreen issue. There are several obvious reaseon why it failed to explain the symptoms. Most people have considerably more mercury from eating seafood or dental fillings than the amount from all mercury laced vaccines they would take for a lifetime. On of the earliest observations concerning autistic was that a significant number of infantile autism victims (as I recall 70 or 80 percent) possessed a gene in the major histocompatibility complex that controls the expression of a protien called C4 beta (C4B) C4b is a component complemet to a protien CD46, which along with component CD4, form one of many immune system triggers againt viral attacks. In laymans terms, when a virus gets into the blood, it attached to a hormone receptor and uses it to inject its DNA into the cell where it manfuactures replicas of itself using the rnn from the cell as materials. CD46 mimics a receptor, but instead of metering electrolytes into the cell, it breaks down into smaller proteins that trigger the T cells to respond. The neat think is that you own hormones will trigger the receptor and three different immune system components which will break down into different simple proteins that cancel out each other. An additional item of note is that many parents of autistic, dyslexic, and ADHD children report a lot of middle ear infections in the first 2 or three years. In infnatile autism, these middle ear infections cease after regression. I suspect the middle ear infections are the result of chronic RSV (Respiratory Syncytial Virus) infection. RSV attacks very young infants with symptoms similar to the common cold, and in a few cases remains dormant in the middle ear, occasionally flaring up with the symptoms of media otitus (Middle ear infection) for three or four days. In most cases the flare ups are misdiagnosed as bacterial or yeast related, antibiotics are prescribed and since the symptom go away in a few days, it is assumed that the antibiotics worked. RSV interacts with the CD4 component. Measle has been proven to suppress CD46 and if you have a genetic deficit of C4b then you have little defense angainst a specific group of viruses, including measles, RSV, and parainfluenza. The measle vaccine component of MMR is an attenuated live virus (ALV) Atennusated means that the virus is know to be less virulent and cause few if any symproms. A virus is attenuated by culturing it in a hostile environment that forces it to mutate until desired qualities that devine attenuation are observed in tests. the strain is then isolated and cultured to provide the vaccine. which leads us to the interactions of the vaccine, wild virii and genetic suceptability. Let's say little Bobby get a bad cold at 3 months. He gets over it and seems okay. Unkown to his parents, he has really just had RSV. The RSV stay in his body, and regular flareup mimic a middle ear infection. At 15 months, shortly after one of thes flareups, he gets the MMR vaccine. Since his immune systme is compromised, the normal mechanism that should create mesles antibodies sort of fizzles, and little Bobby gets sick. The measle virus, which has an affinity for the 5ht5a serotonin receptor (found throughout the body but concentrated in the amygdala, the part of the brain that processes sensory info for the rest of the brain. The attenuated measles virus infects Bobby, and when the immune system recovers from the RSV flareup, it triggers against the viral proteins that are now embedded in the 5ht5a receptors and intefers with the normal functioning of those receptors. Serotonin is the master sleep hormone and controls numerous body and neurological function through 27 different receptor subtypes. The immune system effectively deprives the amygdala of serotonin resulting in a hypersensitivity of all senses, and the brain compensates by producing more serotonin causing gastro intestinal problems, irritability, motor neuron problems and so on. Since the 5ht5a receptors control the flow of calcium as an electrolyte, little bobby developes insatiable cravings for calcium, focuson on eating dairy produce and inedibles such as chalk and diatomaceous earth. There is evidence that much of this caould be avoided with proper screening and an alternative vaccine. But since the political push is to find a specific autism gene that will not implicate vaccines or immunization policies. In my studies of autism research topics, I quickly dismissed Thimerasol as a smokescreen issue. There are several obvious reaseon why it failed to explain the symptoms. Most people have considerably more mercury from eating seafood or dental fillings than the amount from all mercury laced vaccines they would take for a lifetime.
On of the earliest observations concerning autistic was that a significant number of infantile autism victims (as I recall 70 or 80 percent) possessed a gene in the major histocompatibility complex that controls the expression of a protien called C4 beta (C4B)
C4b is a component complemet to a protien CD46, which along with component CD4, form one of many immune system triggers againt viral attacks. In laymans terms, when a virus gets into the blood, it attached to a hormone receptor and uses it to inject its DNA into the cell where it manfuactures replicas of itself using the rnn from the cell as materials. CD46 mimics a receptor, but instead of metering electrolytes into the cell, it breaks down into smaller proteins that trigger the T cells to respond. The neat think is that you own hormones will trigger the receptor and three different immune system components which will break down into different simple proteins that cancel out each other.
An additional item of note is that many parents of autistic, dyslexic, and ADHD children report a lot of middle ear infections in the first 2 or three years.
In infnatile autism, these middle ear infections cease after regression. I suspect the middle ear infections are the result of chronic RSV (Respiratory Syncytial Virus) infection. RSV attacks very young infants with symptoms similar to the common cold, and in a few cases remains dormant in the middle ear, occasionally flaring up with the symptoms of media otitus (Middle ear infection) for three or four days. In most cases the flare ups are misdiagnosed as bacterial or yeast related, antibiotics are prescribed and since the symptom go away in a few days, it is assumed that the antibiotics worked.

RSV interacts with the CD4 component. Measle has been proven to suppress CD46 and if you have a genetic deficit of C4b then you have little defense angainst a specific group of viruses, including measles, RSV, and parainfluenza.

The measle vaccine component of MMR is an attenuated live virus (ALV) Atennusated means that the virus is know to be less virulent and cause few if any symproms. A virus is attenuated by culturing it in a hostile environment that forces it to mutate until desired qualities that devine attenuation are observed in tests. the strain is then isolated and cultured to provide the vaccine.

which leads us to the interactions of the vaccine, wild virii and genetic suceptability.
Let’s say little Bobby get a bad cold at 3 months. He gets over it and seems okay. Unkown to his parents, he has really just had RSV. The RSV stay in his body, and regular flareup mimic a middle ear infection. At 15 months, shortly after one of thes flareups, he gets the MMR vaccine. Since his immune systme is compromised, the normal mechanism that should create mesles antibodies sort of fizzles, and little Bobby gets sick.
The measle virus, which has an affinity for the 5ht5a serotonin receptor (found throughout the body but concentrated in the amygdala, the part of the brain that processes sensory info for the rest of the brain. The attenuated measles virus infects Bobby, and when the immune system recovers from the RSV flareup, it triggers against the viral proteins that are now embedded in the 5ht5a receptors and intefers with the normal functioning of those receptors.

Serotonin is the master sleep hormone and controls numerous body and neurological function through 27 different receptor subtypes. The immune system effectively deprives the amygdala of serotonin resulting in a hypersensitivity of all senses, and the brain compensates by producing more serotonin causing gastro intestinal problems, irritability, motor neuron problems and so on. Since the 5ht5a receptors control the flow of calcium as an electrolyte, little bobby developes insatiable cravings for calcium, focuson on eating dairy produce and inedibles such as chalk and diatomaceous earth.

There is evidence that much of this caould be avoided with proper screening and an alternative vaccine. But since the political push is to find a specific autism gene that will not implicate vaccines or immunization policies.

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