Comments on: U.S. torture program results in thousands of U.S. deaths http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/12/01/us-torture-program-results-in-thousands-of-us-deaths/ Human Animals at the Crossroads of Culture, Science, Religion and Media Fri, 20 Nov 2009 15:00:58 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Hank http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/12/01/us-torture-program-results-in-thousands-of-us-deaths/comment-page-1/#comment-31082 Hank Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:17:16 +0000 http://dangerousintersection.org/?p=3695#comment-31082 Outstanding - I don't think that would be cruel OR unusual :) Outstanding - I don’t think that would be cruel OR unusual :)

]]> By: Tim Hogan http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/12/01/us-torture-program-results-in-thousands-of-us-deaths/comment-page-1/#comment-31064 Tim Hogan Tue, 02 Dec 2008 14:18:11 +0000 http://dangerousintersection.org/?p=3695#comment-31064 There may yet be a value to the facilities at Gitmo---put the Wall Streeters who bankrupted their companies there. There may yet be a value to the facilities at Gitmo—put the Wall Streeters who bankrupted their companies there.

]]> By: Hank http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/12/01/us-torture-program-results-in-thousands-of-us-deaths/comment-page-1/#comment-31027 Hank Tue, 02 Dec 2008 00:53:21 +0000 http://dangerousintersection.org/?p=3695#comment-31027 I've been saying this for years, half tongue-in-cheek: the best recruiting tool al-Qaeda and bin Laden could ever have wished for materialised in the form of the Iraq invasion and subsequent crimes at Abu Ghraib & Guantanamo. If you were an angry militant jihadi before March 2003 but hadn't decided on a course of action yet, you would have needed no further impetus than "Shock & Awe" and Abu Ghraib. The cruel irony of liberating Iraq from Saddam Hussein and then re-opening his most feared & loathed prison and continuing the precise kinds of activities that made it so feared & loathed in the first place was lost on any potential Iraqi insurgent or foreign jihadi. It's possibly the biggest, stupidest & most costly blunder the Bush administration made in the context of the Iraqi theatre (notwithstanding invading a country innocent of 9/11 involvement, posessing WMD or any other provocation to war in the first place). Regardless of what George might want his legacy to be, Abu Ghraib and Guantanmo Bay are going to stick out and shine brightly on his permanent record...and the sad thing is they'll have plenty of competition. I’ve been saying this for years, half tongue-in-cheek: the best recruiting tool al-Qaeda and bin Laden could ever have wished for materialised in the form of the Iraq invasion and subsequent crimes at Abu Ghraib & Guantanamo.

If you were an angry militant jihadi before March 2003 but hadn’t decided on a course of action yet, you would have needed no further impetus than “Shock & Awe” and Abu Ghraib. The cruel irony of liberating Iraq from Saddam Hussein and then re-opening his most feared & loathed prison and continuing the precise kinds of activities that made it so feared & loathed in the first place was lost on any potential Iraqi insurgent or foreign jihadi. It’s possibly the biggest, stupidest & most costly blunder the Bush administration made in the context of the Iraqi theatre (notwithstanding invading a country innocent of 9/11 involvement, posessing WMD or any other provocation to war in the first place).

Regardless of what George might want his legacy to be, Abu Ghraib and Guantanmo Bay are going to stick out and shine brightly on his permanent record…and the sad thing is they’ll have plenty of competition.

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