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		<title>By: Plz check this</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/11/16/did-muhammed-actually-exist/comment-page-1/#comment-37375</link>
		<dc:creator>Plz check this</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 20:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mohamad had son called Ibrahim died in 632-1-27 ... in this day was eclipse of sun this link will help you to know the story http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibrahim_ibn_Muammad download this 2 software to make sure : 1-Lunar Calendars and Eclipse Finder 7.79 or 2-Astronomy by calculations 3.01</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mohamad had son called Ibrahim died in 632-1-27 &#8230; in this day was eclipse of sun this link will help you to know the story <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibrahim_ibn_Muammad" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibrahim_ibn_Muammad</a> download this 2 software to make sure : 1-Lunar Calendars and Eclipse Finder 7.79 or 2-Astronomy by calculations 3.01</p>
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		<title>By: Saagar</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/11/16/did-muhammed-actually-exist/comment-page-1/#comment-31950</link>
		<dc:creator>Saagar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Dec 2008 03:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If religion is all about the word of God, written by him or dictated to a prophet, then why is there a furore over the existence of a man. Let the religion and its teachings be the focus. Islam prohibits images/ sculptures of Mohammed (Pbuh.) as per his own teaching, or if he did not exist then they were handed over by the creator of Islam. The most probable reason might've been a gradual fading away of the putative prophet to let the focus remain on the religion. Prohibition of physical images was just a way of driving home the point of staying away from the worship/ obsession with a person. The teaching should've been the sole survivor 14 centuries after the person left. Sadly, as happens with most of the religions, the founders of Islam could not ensure that this basic teaching could be delivered in a way that ensured compliance.
That brings to the fore another pertinent observation regarding religions. They are perhaps the oldest brands of the most novel product 'Idea'. Religion have all the characteristics of brands; a logo be it a cross or a crescent, a product which resembles its competitors' but still distinguishes itself with some salient features and packaging, a manual for the product, physical and virtual outlets i.e. the temples, churches and mosques, reward points by way of heaven or hell or prosperity in mortal life; the list can go on but i'll restrict it to these few and the last but obviously not the least, a durable brand ambassador. A durable brand ambassador was probably the feature that modern religions, starting from Christianity, focused the most on. The lack of durability of brand ambassadors of Pagan religions was thought to be because of their highly physical and physically larger than life images. It might've been thought that the new religion could only last and thrive on humanly mythical characters. Which then might've led to the birth/ thoughtful creation of Jesus and Mohammed. 
The other facet that i mentioned was the novelty of product i.e. 'Idea'. Seth Godin in his 'Unleashin an Ideavirus' explains how an Idea is the most potent of products. The concept of God and its peripheral explanations in the form of religious scriptures are forms of nothing else but ideas. These ideas could generate currency in the form of spreading religion and its associated benefits for the founders and a disciplined way of life for the communities that followed. The 'peace' and divine alignment of their communities was perhaps the most sought after benefit that these well meaning founders wished. That is also the reason why most of the religions are similar in content. The goal of this product is the currency of peace and the way it can be achieved is by aligning human beings with nature, the sole manifestation of God.
Still, vast majorities of the followers of the religions around the world keep on being obsessed with the peripherals of religion. The constant guard for the identity of their founders being the most common behaviour. No well meaning founder of a religion could've be so shallow as to working for his name/ image to be preserved till eternity. He/she would sure have wished the followers to indulge in pursuits more meaningful and enriching. It is only the post-foundation trustees of faith who successfully tied people to the peripherals and made legions of followers to fight Jihads for these causes which definitely never mattered to the Prophets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If religion is all about the word of God, written by him or dictated to a prophet, then why is there a furore over the existence of a man. Let the religion and its teachings be the focus. Islam prohibits images/ sculptures of Mohammed (Pbuh.) as per his own teaching, or if he did not exist then they were handed over by the creator of Islam. The most probable reason might&#8217;ve been a gradual fading away of the putative prophet to let the focus remain on the religion. Prohibition of physical images was just a way of driving home the point of staying away from the worship/ obsession with a person. The teaching should&#8217;ve been the sole survivor 14 centuries after the person left. Sadly, as happens with most of the religions, the founders of Islam could not ensure that this basic teaching could be delivered in a way that ensured compliance.<br />
That brings to the fore another pertinent observation regarding religions. They are perhaps the oldest brands of the most novel product &#8216;Idea&#8217;. Religion have all the characteristics of brands; a logo be it a cross or a crescent, a product which resembles its competitors&#8217; but still distinguishes itself with some salient features and packaging, a manual for the product, physical and virtual outlets i.e. the temples, churches and mosques, reward points by way of heaven or hell or prosperity in mortal life; the list can go on but i&#8217;ll restrict it to these few and the last but obviously not the least, a durable brand ambassador. A durable brand ambassador was probably the feature that modern religions, starting from Christianity, focused the most on. The lack of durability of brand ambassadors of Pagan religions was thought to be because of their highly physical and physically larger than life images. It might&#8217;ve been thought that the new religion could only last and thrive on humanly mythical characters. Which then might&#8217;ve led to the birth/ thoughtful creation of Jesus and Mohammed.<br />
The other facet that i mentioned was the novelty of product i.e. &#8216;Idea&#8217;. Seth Godin in his &#8216;Unleashin an Ideavirus&#8217; explains how an Idea is the most potent of products. The concept of God and its peripheral explanations in the form of religious scriptures are forms of nothing else but ideas. These ideas could generate currency in the form of spreading religion and its associated benefits for the founders and a disciplined way of life for the communities that followed. The &#8216;peace&#8217; and divine alignment of their communities was perhaps the most sought after benefit that these well meaning founders wished. That is also the reason why most of the religions are similar in content. The goal of this product is the currency of peace and the way it can be achieved is by aligning human beings with nature, the sole manifestation of God.<br />
Still, vast majorities of the followers of the religions around the world keep on being obsessed with the peripherals of religion. The constant guard for the identity of their founders being the most common behaviour. No well meaning founder of a religion could&#8217;ve be so shallow as to working for his name/ image to be preserved till eternity. He/she would sure have wished the followers to indulge in pursuits more meaningful and enriching. It is only the post-foundation trustees of faith who successfully tied people to the peripherals and made legions of followers to fight Jihads for these causes which definitely never mattered to the Prophets.</p>
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		<title>By: Enlightened</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/11/16/did-muhammed-actually-exist/comment-page-1/#comment-31581</link>
		<dc:creator>Enlightened</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 01:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Answering kayenath
NASA never ever said that the moon was split. A crack in the moon does not mean a split.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Answering kayenath<br />
NASA never ever said that the moon was split. A crack in the moon does not mean a split.</p>
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		<title>By: kayenath</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/11/16/did-muhammed-actually-exist/comment-page-1/#comment-30975</link>
		<dc:creator>kayenath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 21:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Off course he existed. Its part of the English history as well as the Islamic.

There are remainings, his body, his grave, his clothes, and so on. Also the miracle he peformed by splitting the moon in two. Science nasa 2004- Crack in the moon has recentley been proven. This links up with the peformed Miracle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Off course he existed. Its part of the English history as well as the Islamic.</p>
<p>There are remainings, his body, his grave, his clothes, and so on. Also the miracle he peformed by splitting the moon in two. Science nasa 2004- Crack in the moon has recentley been proven. This links up with the peformed Miracle.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Tiedemann</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/11/16/did-muhammed-actually-exist/comment-page-1/#comment-30326</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Tiedemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally feel it's immaterial whether either Jesus (Yeshua) or Mohammed existed.  I think it likely.  Were they what their legends tell us?  Probably not.  But movements do not coalesce around ghosts.  As a near-to-hand example, look at the deification going on among some Americans regarding the Founding Fathers.  They react very negatively when a demystifying biography comes out showing them to be, really, just men.  We're only a couple centuries into this, so I use the term deification very metaphorically, but the hagiography of great people is an ongoing phenomenon which it would not be difficult to see turning into full-blown ascension in four or five more centuries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally feel it&#8217;s immaterial whether either Jesus (Yeshua) or Mohammed existed.  I think it likely.  Were they what their legends tell us?  Probably not.  But movements do not coalesce around ghosts.  As a near-to-hand example, look at the deification going on among some Americans regarding the Founding Fathers.  They react very negatively when a demystifying biography comes out showing them to be, really, just men.  We&#8217;re only a couple centuries into this, so I use the term deification very metaphorically, but the hagiography of great people is an ongoing phenomenon which it would not be difficult to see turning into full-blown ascension in four or five more centuries.</p>
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		<title>By: Ibrahim</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/11/16/did-muhammed-actually-exist/comment-page-1/#comment-30305</link>
		<dc:creator>Ibrahim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 08:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I respect very much research work, but to speak about did Mohamed exist or not, this is not accepted by us as Muslim. Yes Mohamed was existing and he lived and the entire historical book mentioned that. 
Mohamed lived as normal person, who transfer God message to people. In Islam we don't believe that Mohamed is God, but he is a profit who selected by God to transfer his message to people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I respect very much research work, but to speak about did Mohamed exist or not, this is not accepted by us as Muslim. Yes Mohamed was existing and he lived and the entire historical book mentioned that.<br />
Mohamed lived as normal person, who transfer God message to people. In Islam we don&#8217;t believe that Mohamed is God, but he is a profit who selected by God to transfer his message to people.</p>
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		<title>By: EsseneMaster</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/11/16/did-muhammed-actually-exist/comment-page-1/#comment-30301</link>
		<dc:creator>EsseneMaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 05:25:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sometimes the word or phrase match, and sometimes they don't. As in real life....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes the word or phrase match, and sometimes they don&#8217;t. As in real life&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: EsseneMaster</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/11/16/did-muhammed-actually-exist/comment-page-1/#comment-30300</link>
		<dc:creator>EsseneMaster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 05:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The question should most likely state, as being taught today...did Muhammed actually exist? Probably not. But did Muhammed actually exist, IMHO ... yes.

Like our essene brother, the truth about his entire life, may have been made larger then life. Much like in the game Gossip ...where a word, or phrase is whispered from person to person ...at the end the original word is compared to the word received at the end of the line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The question should most likely state, as being taught today&#8230;did Muhammed actually exist? Probably not. But did Muhammed actually exist, IMHO &#8230; yes.</p>
<p>Like our essene brother, the truth about his entire life, may have been made larger then life. Much like in the game Gossip &#8230;where a word, or phrase is whispered from person to person &#8230;at the end the original word is compared to the word received at the end of the line.</p>
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		<title>By: realest</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/11/16/did-muhammed-actually-exist/comment-page-1/#comment-30261</link>
		<dc:creator>realest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would say they did exist, but as very normal persons...
and all religions are so similar, that i believe they were all copied from one source.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would say they did exist, but as very normal persons&#8230;<br />
and all religions are so similar, that i believe they were all copied from one source.</p>
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