Erich Vieth is an iconoclastic attorney, musician and writer living in the Shaw neighborhood of St. Louis, Missouri. He and his wife Anne Jay have two daughters, aged 9 and 11.
It has been interesting to watch the circular firing squad, especially the one being driven by Sarah Palin. So far, she has blamed the following people for her poor appearance and her election loss: her handlers, the media, and the Bush administration. Isn’t it just like someone with “executive experience” to assign blame to others?
I’m taking the conversation over here to avoid censorship? Vicki must know how Erich was going to respond. Get your dig in and then claim I’m pulling you off track.
[Admin note: This comment regarding Andy Martin and Barack Obama's birth certificate is irrelevant to this post and has thus been truncated. Vickie Baker has not commented to this post.]
I feel responsible for bringing up the issue over in the other thread. It’s something I feel quite strongly about, so under the circs it’s not a good use of my time or anyone else’s for me to continue any conversation with Karl. I don’t wish to cut off or shut down anyone else’s conversation however.
A polite “agree to disagree” would have been sufficient. This acknowledges neither of us is going to change the other person’s point of view regarding the matters under discussion. It respects a person’ right to express their ideas and beliefs without needing to resort to the big guns to try to intimidate and or frustrate the other person.
Karl is unfailingly polite, even though I disagree with most of his arguments. He has forced me to refine and sharpen my own arguments, in those posts where he has engaged me. For that I thank you, Karl.
I am sure that he and I are mutually frothing with frustration as we tilt at each others windmills. But he civilly refrains from making it personal. When my asymptotically honed points don’t find their mark, then we need to step back and let the issue de-froth. Maybe one of us or the other will later find an unexplored difference in that issue. Then it’s once again tips up and en garde!
Many wait from Obama immediate recovery and resolution of all problems they had through many years so far. It's unfair. During a year in White House Obama has done a lot. Here's a brief summary of major accomplishments of Barack Obama during his presidency:http://myhowtoos.com/en/red-hot/93-growing-list-of-barack-obama-accomplishments »
HiJust so you know in future, and can let your neighbour know. When a baby crow is fully feathered like this they naturally leave the nest. They have to one day. They take a few days then to learn to fly around with confidence. But you 'must' 'never' take the bird if the mother is around. This is normal crow behaviour and happens to 'all' cro... »
This whole crisis will just be repeated again because the way W and Obama have stacked the deck.We, the taxpayers are the payors of last resort, and there's no risk, civilly or criminally for the thieves, jackals and vultures who will pick over the last of the bones of the Middle Class at the end of the next crisis when the whole world is thrown ba... »
Erich-It seems that the Chinese are acting as though peak oil were here or something. From the article:This green spending is concurrent with their ongoing efforts to lock up remaining supplies of oil, as I briefly mentioned here. See also this article on Chinese oil buying. »
Jay, I agree. A lot of the house bill, particularly where Medicaid reform is concerned, references specific paragraphs in the Medicaid laws. Understanding the full effect of the changes wil require reading those as well. I've often thought it would be fun to get an amendment to repeal or suspend an obscure law of physics, such as the chandrasekha... »
Ya know, I thought NO ONE actually read those bills. I've always wanted to slip in weird, off the wall statements and regs that make no sense into the middle of such a document to see if anyone is actually reading them. »
Palin quit some appointment to an oil board because of GOP "corruption."Palin says the McCain people didn't let her have her say. The media just did "gotcha" moments on Palin.Palin quits being governor two years early because of conservative allegations of her being "corrupt." Just after Palin pays back Alaska for bilking the state for travel for h... »
Niklaus: I admire your determination. There are probably only a few hundred people in the entire country who have read the first 1,000 pages. When you finish, I'll invite you to read the Senate version too, so that you can do a comparison. »
Well I'm up to page 1000 in the house bill. A lot of the bill addresses specifically the loopholes that have been exploited by large corporations like Wal-mart that have permitted those companies to put most of their employees on public health care or to deny them access to coverage. Some actually includes provisions for making those corporations p... »
Get Over It, It's not about a difference of opinion. Mrs' Palin has repeatedly and proudly her voiced opinions in ways that exhibit a wanton ignorance of current events, world history, and global politics. She has on many occasions voiced opinions that show grounding in the prejudices and stereotyping common to those who prefer to leave the he... »
Hey, Get Over It,What do we do if someone actually happens to BE stupid? I suppose we could say they're rationality challenged.But seriously, I don't for a minute think this woman is stupid. I think she's opportunistic and such a thorough-going politician that she'd use just about anyone, including her family, to win.BTW, American Right To Life (... »
Ya'll need to get over it. Name calling conservatives will never get independents like me. Try to be more balanced and analyze Sarah's actions/remarks to the same degree as your beloved Obama. Also, please stop judging people to be stupid just because they don't agree with you! This elitism in the liberal party is just sickening. »
Aw, bugger! I'm in a "fight?" Who do I punch in the nose? My faith there is a God means I cannot accept that others don't believe as I do? Or that some might believe that I'm delusional and believe in mythical beings?There's some unforseen armageddon between theism and science which will result in the inevitable destruction of theism? Dammit, I gue... »
I've been working hard to not post anything on Sarah Palin, who continues to gather publicity for reasons I can't fathom. I must say, though, that I am aghast at her recent position on the illegal Jewish settlements. http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/11/palin-on-israel.html »
It has been interesting to watch the circular firing squad, especially the one being driven by Sarah Palin. So far, she has blamed the following people for her poor appearance and her election loss: her handlers, the media, and the Bush administration. Isn’t it just like someone with “executive experience” to assign blame to others?
I’m taking the conversation over here to avoid censorship? Vicki must know how Erich was going to respond. Get your dig in and then claim I’m pulling you off track.
[Admin note: This comment regarding Andy Martin and Barack Obama's birth certificate is irrelevant to this post and has thus been truncated. Vickie Baker has not commented to this post.]
I feel responsible for bringing up the issue over in the other thread. It’s something I feel quite strongly about, so under the circs it’s not a good use of my time or anyone else’s for me to continue any conversation with Karl. I don’t wish to cut off or shut down anyone else’s conversation however.
A polite “agree to disagree” would have been sufficient. This acknowledges neither of us is going to change the other person’s point of view regarding the matters under discussion. It respects a person’ right to express their ideas and beliefs without needing to resort to the big guns to try to intimidate and or frustrate the other person.
Karl is unfailingly polite, even though I disagree with most of his arguments. He has forced me to refine and sharpen my own arguments, in those posts where he has engaged me. For that I thank you, Karl.
I am sure that he and I are mutually frothing with frustration as we tilt at each others windmills. But he civilly refrains from making it personal. When my asymptotically honed points don’t find their mark, then we need to step back and let the issue de-froth. Maybe one of us or the other will later find an unexplored difference in that issue. Then it’s once again tips up and en garde!