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	<title>Comments on: The Naming of Things</title>
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		<title>By: projektleiterin</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/10/28/the-naming-of-things/comment-page-1/#comment-28613</link>
		<dc:creator>projektleiterin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 20:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There's a time when people don't feel like using euphemism - when they want to attack an opponent, then the unabashed truth becomes superimportant.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a time when people don&#8217;t feel like using euphemism - when they want to attack an opponent, then the unabashed truth becomes superimportant.</p>
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		<title>By: Niklaus Pfirsig</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/10/28/the-naming-of-things/comment-page-1/#comment-28577</link>
		<dc:creator>Niklaus Pfirsig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some observations and comments.
 
  I totally agree with you on the abuse of euphemisms in the current political/commercial arena. There are a few that annoy the crap out of me that are becoming more common.

 One is closely associated with internet advertising. The phrase "Learn more" when used to reference a propaganda or advertising site is one of my many pet peeves.

 While on a web site, you get a bunch of banner ads and many will have a link marked "Click her to learn more" or "Want to learn more? Visit www.wewantyourmoney.com for details". I even see this on tv ads.  Prescription drug "Co-op" ad will have at url at the end like "To learn more about  Pharma-Corp's new safe and effective sleep-aids go to www.thalidomideisgood4U.com".

  "Learn more" implies that you are to be educated, imparted with knowledge that you can use. In fact, the web sites, which are often hosted internationally are not under the regulation of truth in advertising and usually promote propaganda of the most extreme kind. They are trying to brain-wash you into buying what they sell, be that over-priced Chinese merchandise or stories trying to portray a presidential candidate as the "Manchurian Candidate" ( "Manchurian Candidate" refers to a novel and subsequent movie adaptations of the novel about an American POW that is brain-washed by Chinese scientists to become a "sleeper" agent who will betray his country after hearing a secret trigger phrase. The sleeper agent in the story becomes a presidential candidate.)

   Another disgusting abuse is "voting with your dollars" implying that capitalism is democratic by nature. Not the same thing. When voting with dollars, the people with more dollars have more votes, and they will usually vote for that which will bring even more dollars .

  I disagree on Centrists being non-committal wimps. I consider myself centrist, and have strong opinions about most things. I do not however blindly subscribe to the total package of ideas promoted by the right wing extremists nor do I agree totally with the left wing. I prefer to do my own thinking, thank you very much. I have observed over many years that addressing the needs of the majority of the population under the bell curve is much more effective that focusing disproportionately on the wants of the few at the fringes. It appears to me that the solutions that are oriented toward this majority are based on concepts that approximate the midpoint between the extremes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some observations and comments.</p>
<p>  I totally agree with you on the abuse of euphemisms in the current political/commercial arena. There are a few that annoy the crap out of me that are becoming more common.</p>
<p> One is closely associated with internet advertising. The phrase &#8220;Learn more&#8221; when used to reference a propaganda or advertising site is one of my many pet peeves.</p>
<p> While on a web site, you get a bunch of banner ads and many will have a link marked &#8220;Click her to learn more&#8221; or &#8220;Want to learn more? Visit <a href="http://www.wewantyourmoney.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.wewantyourmoney.com</a> for details&#8221;. I even see this on tv ads.  Prescription drug &#8220;Co-op&#8221; ad will have at url at the end like &#8220;To learn more about  Pharma-Corp&#8217;s new safe and effective sleep-aids go to <a href="http://www.thalidomideisgood4U.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.thalidomideisgood4U.com</a>&#8220;.</p>
<p>  &#8220;Learn more&#8221; implies that you are to be educated, imparted with knowledge that you can use. In fact, the web sites, which are often hosted internationally are not under the regulation of truth in advertising and usually promote propaganda of the most extreme kind. They are trying to brain-wash you into buying what they sell, be that over-priced Chinese merchandise or stories trying to portray a presidential candidate as the &#8220;Manchurian Candidate&#8221; ( &#8220;Manchurian Candidate&#8221; refers to a novel and subsequent movie adaptations of the novel about an American POW that is brain-washed by Chinese scientists to become a &#8220;sleeper&#8221; agent who will betray his country after hearing a secret trigger phrase. The sleeper agent in the story becomes a presidential candidate.)</p>
<p>   Another disgusting abuse is &#8220;voting with your dollars&#8221; implying that capitalism is democratic by nature. Not the same thing. When voting with dollars, the people with more dollars have more votes, and they will usually vote for that which will bring even more dollars .</p>
<p>  I disagree on Centrists being non-committal wimps. I consider myself centrist, and have strong opinions about most things. I do not however blindly subscribe to the total package of ideas promoted by the right wing extremists nor do I agree totally with the left wing. I prefer to do my own thinking, thank you very much. I have observed over many years that addressing the needs of the majority of the population under the bell curve is much more effective that focusing disproportionately on the wants of the few at the fringes. It appears to me that the solutions that are oriented toward this majority are based on concepts that approximate the midpoint between the extremes.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Klarmann</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/10/28/the-naming-of-things/comment-page-1/#comment-28569</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Klarmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, I'm usually completely with you. But I've always considered a &#34;product&#34; to be something modified to provide value. If the thing itself is not physically tangible (such as the words in a new story) it still is the product for which people exchange symbols of value (money).

Manipulating words, or batches of money, or computer instructions are all occupations that create an exchangeable unit of something from nothing more than mind. A well made loan can capitalize a business and revitalize a neighborhood; it produces.

So it doesn't bother me to consider a loan as a product. Although I did suffer financially from having them bought and sold without proper labeling a few years ago. Silly deregulation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, I&#8217;m usually completely with you. But I&#8217;ve always considered a &quot;product&quot; to be something modified to provide value. If the thing itself is not physically tangible (such as the words in a new story) it still is the product for which people exchange symbols of value (money).</p>
<p>Manipulating words, or batches of money, or computer instructions are all occupations that create an exchangeable unit of something from nothing more than mind. A well made loan can capitalize a business and revitalize a neighborhood; it produces.</p>
<p>So it doesn&#8217;t bother me to consider a loan as a product. Although I did suffer financially from having them bought and sold without proper labeling a few years ago. Silly deregulation.</p>
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