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	<title>Comments on: Internet for everyone?  Why not?</title>
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		<title>By: Dan Klarmann</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/06/25/internet-for-everyone-why-not/#comment-20105</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Klarmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>High speed broadband including free anti-virus, email accounts, and such costs less than cable or satellite TV. I pay for the former, but not the latter. 

My city &lt;i&gt;almost&lt;/i&gt; implemented universal free WiFi a couple of years ago. The project was killed by several political interests. One was the question of why we should spend several million dollars on 21&lt;sup&gt;st&lt;/sup&gt; century infrastructure, when the city needs to finance a 4th $300M stadium to supplement the 3 we recently built for our 2 major sports teams. Yes, we already have 2 fully equipped major league stadia, the older of which is 12, and the younger completed last year, but is part of a still unfinished sports park. Plus a domed practice field for the football team out on the flood plain that may only seat a few thousand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>High speed broadband including free anti-virus, email accounts, and such costs less than cable or satellite TV. I pay for the former, but not the latter. </p>
<p>My city <i>almost</i> implemented universal free WiFi a couple of years ago. The project was killed by several political interests. One was the question of why we should spend several million dollars on 21<sup>st</sup> century infrastructure, when the city needs to finance a 4th $300M stadium to supplement the 3 we recently built for our 2 major sports teams. Yes, we already have 2 fully equipped major league stadia, the older of which is 12, and the younger completed last year, but is part of a still unfinished sports park. Plus a domed practice field for the football team out on the flood plain that may only seat a few thousand.</p>
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		<title>By: Niklaus Pfirsig</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/06/25/internet-for-everyone-why-not/#comment-20104</link>
		<dc:creator>Niklaus Pfirsig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 19:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back in the Clinton administration, the federal government contracted with several phone companies across the nation to install millions of miles of fiber optic cable throughout the nation. I have no idea hoe much was completed, but the existence of these communication lines is denied by the phone and cable operators who claim "limited bandwidth" as a justification for multi-tiered pricing structure.  I can go out in my yard and show you where to dig  to find the cable that runs in front of my house. I can also show you where the cable is buried in my parents front yard, and they live 10 miles from the nearest small town. 

  Yet when I had to have a water line repaired, and the utilities people cam out to mark where the gas, sewer, water, cable, and phone lines were buried, they did not mark the fiber optic cable. While it is true that the cable is buried at least 6 feet down, I saw the crews put it in, so I know it is there. 

 This was part of the National Information Infrastructure, and the phone company lingo is "dark fiber". After the beginning of the Bush administration, and the war in Iraq, many of the smaller phone companies were acquired by ATT as they began to reconstruct the monopoly that was once Ma Bell. For now it suits their purposes and profits to deny the existence of what essentially belongs to the public. My guess is that they will find a way to take ownership of the dark fiber by some fraudulent by legal means. 

  We have, in place, the basic communications bandwidth, paid for by tax dollars, but it is not being used.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back in the Clinton administration, the federal government contracted with several phone companies across the nation to install millions of miles of fiber optic cable throughout the nation. I have no idea hoe much was completed, but the existence of these communication lines is denied by the phone and cable operators who claim &#8220;limited bandwidth&#8221; as a justification for multi-tiered pricing structure.  I can go out in my yard and show you where to dig  to find the cable that runs in front of my house. I can also show you where the cable is buried in my parents front yard, and they live 10 miles from the nearest small town. </p>
<p>  Yet when I had to have a water line repaired, and the utilities people cam out to mark where the gas, sewer, water, cable, and phone lines were buried, they did not mark the fiber optic cable. While it is true that the cable is buried at least 6 feet down, I saw the crews put it in, so I know it is there. </p>
<p> This was part of the National Information Infrastructure, and the phone company lingo is &#8220;dark fiber&#8221;. After the beginning of the Bush administration, and the war in Iraq, many of the smaller phone companies were acquired by ATT as they began to reconstruct the monopoly that was once Ma Bell. For now it suits their purposes and profits to deny the existence of what essentially belongs to the public. My guess is that they will find a way to take ownership of the dark fiber by some fraudulent by legal means. </p>
<p>  We have, in place, the basic communications bandwidth, paid for by tax dollars, but it is not being used.</p>
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		<title>By: projektleiterin</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/06/25/internet-for-everyone-why-not/#comment-20083</link>
		<dc:creator>projektleiterin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 11:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've recently been without internet (meaning &lt;em&gt;safe&lt;/em&gt; internet, I had to use the unsecured wireless very very lame networks around me) for two weeks. One word - awful. But enough of pity whoring :D, how much does a high speed broadband connection cost? Do people not have that kind of internet connection, because it's expensive or because they are not interested?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve recently been without internet (meaning <em>safe</em> internet, I had to use the unsecured wireless very very lame networks around me) for two weeks. One word - awful. But enough of pity whoring :D, how much does a high speed broadband connection cost? Do people not have that kind of internet connection, because it&#8217;s expensive or because they are not interested?</p>
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