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	<title>Comments on: Citizens act like dysfunctional children when kept ignorant of “natural consequences.”</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Clara Silva</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/06/20/citizens-act-like-dysfunctional-children-when-they-lack-the-knowledge-of-%e2%80%9cnatural-consequences%e2%80%9d/#comment-21619</link>
		<dc:creator>Clara Silva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 01:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rudolf Dreikurs is a great of Adlerians. Please visite our website for collaboratein Dreikurs' year.
Best regards.
Dr.Clara Silva
Adlerian Society of Uruguay and Latin America</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rudolf Dreikurs is a great of Adlerians. Please visite our website for collaboratein Dreikurs&#8217; year.<br />
Best regards.<br />
Dr.Clara Silva<br />
Adlerian Society of Uruguay and Latin America</p>
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		<title>By: Erich Vieth</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/06/20/citizens-act-like-dysfunctional-children-when-they-lack-the-knowledge-of-%e2%80%9cnatural-consequences%e2%80%9d/#comment-19893</link>
		<dc:creator>Erich Vieth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 15:47:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Niklaus:  Dreikurs used the example of playing in the street.  He would not advocate using natural consequences to teach a two-year old whether to play in the street.   He recognized those limits.

He also recognized that the natural consequences form a system of reward and punishments, but concluded that it is better that the parent not always (or often) be in that loop.   

Reading his work, I thought about how many (not all) children finally grow up into responsible adults only when they have left their immediate families to go off to college or move out and get that first job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Niklaus:  Dreikurs used the example of playing in the street.  He would not advocate using natural consequences to teach a two-year old whether to play in the street.   He recognized those limits.</p>
<p>He also recognized that the natural consequences form a system of reward and punishments, but concluded that it is better that the parent not always (or often) be in that loop.   </p>
<p>Reading his work, I thought about how many (not all) children finally grow up into responsible adults only when they have left their immediate families to go off to college or move out and get that first job.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/06/20/citizens-act-like-dysfunctional-children-when-they-lack-the-knowledge-of-%e2%80%9cnatural-consequences%e2%80%9d/#comment-19879</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 07:09:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My parents raised us with "drikers" for a while. Shed some tears along the way. Didn't think the new rules were fair (kids never do). Rebelled as teenagers do. Turned out perfectly... :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My parents raised us with &#8220;drikers&#8221; for a while. Shed some tears along the way. Didn&#8217;t think the new rules were fair (kids never do). Rebelled as teenagers do. Turned out perfectly&#8230; <img src='http://dangerousintersection.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Niklaus Pfirsig</title>
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		<dc:creator>Niklaus Pfirsig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 06:05:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are a few problems with natural consequences as a training technique.

 In some situations, the consequences could result in injury or death. In other situations, The classic example of this case is "playing with fire". It is quite common for a toddler to a minor burn and then quickly learn to be careful around hot things such as the kitchen range, space heaters, or irons. On occasion, a child sets fire to the house or apartment while playing with matches or a lighter. In the latter case, the matural consequences can be disasterous. 

Another problem is when the consequences are not felt immediately.This is the case with lying. Young children do not understand the concept of honesty.They learn that lying is an easy way to get what they want.Eventually, their lies catch up to them and problems occur. However, they have delayed the natural consequences and the association with the cause is no longer clear.

 Natural consequences still form a system of rewards and punishments. 

 Good parenting is based on the judicous application of many techniques. Behavoral modification through reward and punishment is sometimes needed. Positive attention is the best reward ( not candy or toys). punishment is needed only on rare occasions. The hardest part of being a parent is being able to decide to reward, punish or just let things happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are a few problems with natural consequences as a training technique.</p>
<p> In some situations, the consequences could result in injury or death. In other situations, The classic example of this case is &#8220;playing with fire&#8221;. It is quite common for a toddler to a minor burn and then quickly learn to be careful around hot things such as the kitchen range, space heaters, or irons. On occasion, a child sets fire to the house or apartment while playing with matches or a lighter. In the latter case, the matural consequences can be disasterous. </p>
<p>Another problem is when the consequences are not felt immediately.This is the case with lying. Young children do not understand the concept of honesty.They learn that lying is an easy way to get what they want.Eventually, their lies catch up to them and problems occur. However, they have delayed the natural consequences and the association with the cause is no longer clear.</p>
<p> Natural consequences still form a system of rewards and punishments. </p>
<p> Good parenting is based on the judicous application of many techniques. Behavoral modification through reward and punishment is sometimes needed. Positive attention is the best reward ( not candy or toys). punishment is needed only on rare occasions. The hardest part of being a parent is being able to decide to reward, punish or just let things happen.</p>
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