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	<title>Comments on: What do you do when a cat poops on the airplane after you almost die in a plane crash?</title>
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		<title>By: Lorn</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/06/06/what-do-you-do-when-a-cat-poops-on-the-airplane-after-you-almost-die-in-a-plane-crash/#comment-31718</link>
		<dc:creator>Lorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 02:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm bringing my buddy cat with me for our holiday trip tomorrow afternoon.  It's been a bit stressful to try and sort this out, as I've been considering others allergies and toleration of noise (he's a bit of a talkative fellow), but at the same time if I encounter someone trying to give me or my little friend a hard time... they'll catch some hard times as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m bringing my buddy cat with me for our holiday trip tomorrow afternoon.  It&#8217;s been a bit stressful to try and sort this out, as I&#8217;ve been considering others allergies and toleration of noise (he&#8217;s a bit of a talkative fellow), but at the same time if I encounter someone trying to give me or my little friend a hard time&#8230; they&#8217;ll catch some hard times as well.</p>
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		<title>By: patrice</title>
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		<dc:creator>patrice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:zXIlqh9r3VMJ:www.sfspca.org/advocacy/pdf/pdf_airplanes/airplane.pdf+cats+on+airplanes&#38;hl=en&#38;ct=clnk&#38;cd=3&#38;gl=us&#38;client=firefox-a" rel="nofollow"&gt;Here &lt;/a&gt;is a link to an spca site that explains how many animals perish each year in cargo holds-- explaining why small animals should be on board.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:zXIlqh9r3VMJ:www.sfspca.org/advocacy/pdf/pdf_airplanes/airplane.pdf+cats+on+airplanes&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;cd=3&amp;gl=us&amp;client=firefox-a" rel="nofollow">Here </a>is a link to an spca site that explains how many animals perish each year in cargo holds&#8211; explaining why small animals should be on board.</p>
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		<title>By: patrice</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/06/06/what-do-you-do-when-a-cat-poops-on-the-airplane-after-you-almost-die-in-a-plane-crash/#comment-31072</link>
		<dc:creator>patrice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:57:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found this thread when I googled \'cats on airplanes\' because I am trying to get my pet and myself back to my dying mother across country.  I live far away in the middle of nowhere because of my chemical sensitivities. While I feel bad for those with asthma and cat allergies, I am regularly forced into panic attacks and migraines and fits of diarhea from people\'s scented products--including the residue they leave behind on the upholstery I have to sit in for an 11 hour day to get from the NW to the NE.  I am always amazed that airline personel are permitted to wear cologne or perfume, and that the soap is scented in public restrooms...and that people with asthma are wearing perfume while complaining about pet dander!  Rose oil is an allergen for something like 60% of people, and is included to some degree in a majority of fragrances...I found when I eliminate my exposure to petrochemicals (like sitting near someone who had their suit dry cleaned) and strong natural things like cedar (which contains natural poisons, which is why bugs and fungus don\'t eat it...arsenic is 100% organic, but that doesn\'t make it good for you) I have no reaction to things like dander.  I was concerned, though, about the whole \'how does a cat potty in a little carrier I can\'t open most of the day\' issue, though, even before I read Erich\'s post.  Trust me, a baby diaper or my own cat pooping within 10 feet of me in an airplane would make me want to puke and scream, too. :-/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this thread when I googled \&#8217;cats on airplanes\&#8217; because I am trying to get my pet and myself back to my dying mother across country.  I live far away in the middle of nowhere because of my chemical sensitivities. While I feel bad for those with asthma and cat allergies, I am regularly forced into panic attacks and migraines and fits of diarhea from people\&#8217;s scented products&#8211;including the residue they leave behind on the upholstery I have to sit in for an 11 hour day to get from the NW to the NE.  I am always amazed that airline personel are permitted to wear cologne or perfume, and that the soap is scented in public restrooms&#8230;and that people with asthma are wearing perfume while complaining about pet dander!  Rose oil is an allergen for something like 60% of people, and is included to some degree in a majority of fragrances&#8230;I found when I eliminate my exposure to petrochemicals (like sitting near someone who had their suit dry cleaned) and strong natural things like cedar (which contains natural poisons, which is why bugs and fungus don\&#8217;t eat it&#8230;arsenic is 100% organic, but that doesn\&#8217;t make it good for you) I have no reaction to things like dander.  I was concerned, though, about the whole \&#8217;how does a cat potty in a little carrier I can\&#8217;t open most of the day\&#8217; issue, though, even before I read Erich\&#8217;s post.  Trust me, a baby diaper or my own cat pooping within 10 feet of me in an airplane would make me want to puke and scream, too. :-/</p>
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		<title>By: Erich Vieth</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/06/06/what-do-you-do-when-a-cat-poops-on-the-airplane-after-you-almost-die-in-a-plane-crash/#comment-30330</link>
		<dc:creator>Erich Vieth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>FromWA:  For a homework assignment, try this.   Please re-read your comment and check the tone.  Then ask yourself whether you are the kind of person who you'd like to converse with.  Then consider whether you'd ever be willing to step up and sign your REAL name to a comment like that. 

I really don't understand your hostility to the post.  It never occurred to me to sue the airline.  I never blamed the pilot or airline for the turbulence.  I was just glad I ended up alive and surprised that the airlines let animals in the passenger compartment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FromWA:  For a homework assignment, try this.   Please re-read your comment and check the tone.  Then ask yourself whether you are the kind of person who you&#8217;d like to converse with.  Then consider whether you&#8217;d ever be willing to step up and sign your REAL name to a comment like that. </p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t understand your hostility to the post.  It never occurred to me to sue the airline.  I never blamed the pilot or airline for the turbulence.  I was just glad I ended up alive and surprised that the airlines let animals in the passenger compartment.</p>
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		<title>By: FromWA</title>
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		<dc:creator>FromWA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 15:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why don't you just sue the airline? That is the American way, right? You could sue them for not informing you that there would be turbulance. Have you ever flown on a plane before? Do you know the first thing about flight? I would have loved to be on that plane to experience a plane "flying" backwards! If you are allergic to cats, it should have been your due dilligence to check that none would be seated around you. Personal responsibilty...what a novel idea!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why don&#8217;t you just sue the airline? That is the American way, right? You could sue them for not informing you that there would be turbulance. Have you ever flown on a plane before? Do you know the first thing about flight? I would have loved to be on that plane to experience a plane &#8220;flying&#8221; backwards! If you are allergic to cats, it should have been your due dilligence to check that none would be seated around you. Personal responsibilty&#8230;what a novel idea!</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Klarmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Klarmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've never heard of a human going into respiratory arrest because of exposure to a baby.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never heard of a human going into respiratory arrest because of exposure to a baby.</p>
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		<title>By: Bogdan</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/06/06/what-do-you-do-when-a-cat-poops-on-the-airplane-after-you-almost-die-in-a-plane-crash/#comment-27274</link>
		<dc:creator>Bogdan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 12:09:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was reading the posts an the stories on this web site and I'm amazed with all this, I just want to ask what about the babies when they are on the flight and they cry like crazy and poop them self and they bother the hole cockpit, they should be in cargo area  not the animals</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was reading the posts an the stories on this web site and I&#8217;m amazed with all this, I just want to ask what about the babies when they are on the flight and they cry like crazy and poop them self and they bother the hole cockpit, they should be in cargo area  not the animals</p>
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		<title>By: Erich Vieth</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/06/06/what-do-you-do-when-a-cat-poops-on-the-airplane-after-you-almost-die-in-a-plane-crash/#comment-21210</link>
		<dc:creator>Erich Vieth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jul 2008 04:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you bring a cat on a plane?  Here's the official answer by American Airlines, which did respond to my letter of concern:



&lt;blockquote&gt;I am sorry that you were uncomfortable by the presence of an animal aboard your flight.  From the details you provided, it is clear that the animal aboard created unpleasant conditions for you -- again, I am sorry.  I apologize, too, that our personnel weren't more successful in improving the situation for you.  No doubt it was an annoying experience for all concerned.

I can appreciate your disappointment that you were unaware a pet would be traveling in the cabin on your flight.  While it would not be possible for us to effectively contact every customer who has booked a reservation to advise them that a pet may be traveling on their flight, the next time you make reservations to travel with us, ask the booking agent if any animals are booked for travel on the flights on your itinerary.  Bear in mind that some people book flights on the spur of the moment, so it will be necessary to call our reservations office about 12 hours or so before the departure time.  That way, we can give you the best information available about pets in the cabin.  However, we cannot guarantee a pet-free cabin because some customers traveling with pets or service animals could be accommodated on one of your flights after either missing an earlier flight or their flight was canceled.

Believe it or not, our regulations for pets carried aboard the aircraft are aimed at reducing any discomfort on the part of our other customers.  When traveling within the
48 contiguous United States, we allow seven kennels per flight, two in the First Class cabin and a total of five in the Main Cabin and Business Class combined.

The pet must travel in a kennel that fits underneath the seat in front of the accompanying passenger.  We require that the animal stay in the kennel (there are exceptions) in order to reduce odor, noise, allergic reactions and unpleasant "accidents."  Additionally, the pet must be able to stand up in the kennel, which precludes large animals from being accommodated.  For the most part, no household pets are allowed in the cabin on long transatlantic or transpacific flights (with the exception of service animals) or on flights to or from Hawaii.

With regard to the issue concerning animals allowed out of their kennels, the U.S.
Department of Transportation has ruled that airlines must allow emotional support animals to travel in the cabin; these animals may ride on the customer's lap.

While we appreciate the perspective that things would be a lot easier if pets were barred from the passenger cabin, the large number of our customers who want to travel with their animals don't share this view.  So, I hope you can appreciate our reasons for not applying any such ban unilaterally.  Many customers traveling with animals are professional breeders on their way to shows and competitions.  Their livelihood may well depend on the ability to transport their animals inside aircraft cabins.

Again, I'm sorry your experience was unsatisfactory.  However, pets will continue to be passengers aboard our flights.  We will continue our efforts to ensure compliance with our inflight restrictions for pets in the cabin to make for a quiet and peaceful journey for everyone.

Mr. Vieth, we want all customers to enjoy their flights with American Airlines  -- whether they are customers who care to travel with their pets or those who would prefer that "Rover" be left home.  Thank you for sharing your perspective and for listening to our point of view.&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you bring a cat on a plane?  Here&#8217;s the official answer by American Airlines, which did respond to my letter of concern:</p>
<blockquote><p>I am sorry that you were uncomfortable by the presence of an animal aboard your flight.  From the details you provided, it is clear that the animal aboard created unpleasant conditions for you &#8212; again, I am sorry.  I apologize, too, that our personnel weren&#8217;t more successful in improving the situation for you.  No doubt it was an annoying experience for all concerned.</p>
<p>I can appreciate your disappointment that you were unaware a pet would be traveling in the cabin on your flight.  While it would not be possible for us to effectively contact every customer who has booked a reservation to advise them that a pet may be traveling on their flight, the next time you make reservations to travel with us, ask the booking agent if any animals are booked for travel on the flights on your itinerary.  Bear in mind that some people book flights on the spur of the moment, so it will be necessary to call our reservations office about 12 hours or so before the departure time.  That way, we can give you the best information available about pets in the cabin.  However, we cannot guarantee a pet-free cabin because some customers traveling with pets or service animals could be accommodated on one of your flights after either missing an earlier flight or their flight was canceled.</p>
<p>Believe it or not, our regulations for pets carried aboard the aircraft are aimed at reducing any discomfort on the part of our other customers.  When traveling within the<br />
48 contiguous United States, we allow seven kennels per flight, two in the First Class cabin and a total of five in the Main Cabin and Business Class combined.</p>
<p>The pet must travel in a kennel that fits underneath the seat in front of the accompanying passenger.  We require that the animal stay in the kennel (there are exceptions) in order to reduce odor, noise, allergic reactions and unpleasant &#8220;accidents.&#8221;  Additionally, the pet must be able to stand up in the kennel, which precludes large animals from being accommodated.  For the most part, no household pets are allowed in the cabin on long transatlantic or transpacific flights (with the exception of service animals) or on flights to or from Hawaii.</p>
<p>With regard to the issue concerning animals allowed out of their kennels, the U.S.<br />
Department of Transportation has ruled that airlines must allow emotional support animals to travel in the cabin; these animals may ride on the customer&#8217;s lap.</p>
<p>While we appreciate the perspective that things would be a lot easier if pets were barred from the passenger cabin, the large number of our customers who want to travel with their animals don&#8217;t share this view.  So, I hope you can appreciate our reasons for not applying any such ban unilaterally.  Many customers traveling with animals are professional breeders on their way to shows and competitions.  Their livelihood may well depend on the ability to transport their animals inside aircraft cabins.</p>
<p>Again, I&#8217;m sorry your experience was unsatisfactory.  However, pets will continue to be passengers aboard our flights.  We will continue our efforts to ensure compliance with our inflight restrictions for pets in the cabin to make for a quiet and peaceful journey for everyone.</p>
<p>Mr. Vieth, we want all customers to enjoy their flights with American Airlines  &#8212; whether they are customers who care to travel with their pets or those who would prefer that &#8220;Rover&#8221; be left home.  Thank you for sharing your perspective and for listening to our point of view.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: grumpypilgrim</title>
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		<dc:creator>grumpypilgrim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 00:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If extreme air turbulence were to cause a *human* passenger to shit all over himself, or to vomit, would you also blame the airline for having to endure the smell?  Would you demand monetary compensation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If extreme air turbulence were to cause a *human* passenger to shit all over himself, or to vomit, would you also blame the airline for having to endure the smell?  Would you demand monetary compensation?</p>
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		<title>By: Erich Vieth</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/06/06/what-do-you-do-when-a-cat-poops-on-the-airplane-after-you-almost-die-in-a-plane-crash/#comment-20709</link>
		<dc:creator>Erich Vieth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 02:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mo Russell:  You've inspired me.  I'm writing a complaint note to American Airlines tonight.   Here's a variation on the theme:  if a passenger tries to wear stinky perfume or cologne, same issue.  Rather than have me (and other passengers) choking, they should go wash it off.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mo Russell:  You&#8217;ve inspired me.  I&#8217;m writing a complaint note to American Airlines tonight.   Here&#8217;s a variation on the theme:  if a passenger tries to wear stinky perfume or cologne, same issue.  Rather than have me (and other passengers) choking, they should go wash it off.</p>
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