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	<title>Comments on: Note to Scott McClellan and Colin Powell: It&#8217;s too damned late.  You both missed the boat.</title>
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		<title>By: Mark Tiedemann</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/05/28/hey-scott-colin-its-too-damned-late-you-guys-missed-the-boat/#comment-28206</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Tiedemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 17:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott McClellan, Robert McNamara.  Hmmmm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott McClellan, Robert McNamara.  Hmmmm.</p>
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		<title>By: Erich Vieth</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/05/28/hey-scott-colin-its-too-damned-late-you-guys-missed-the-boat/#comment-28114</link>
		<dc:creator>Erich Vieth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 14:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Colin Powell has done a lot of soul-searching about the Republican Party.   Today he endorsed Barack Obama.   http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/19/colin-powell-endorses-oba_n_135895.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Colin Powell has done a lot of soul-searching about the Republican Party.   Today he endorsed Barack Obama.   <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/19/colin-powell-endorses-oba_n_135895.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/19/colin-powell-endorses-oba_n_135895.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Birds of a feather &#124; Dangerous Intersection</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/05/28/hey-scott-colin-its-too-damned-late-you-guys-missed-the-boat/#comment-18959</link>
		<dc:creator>Birds of a feather &#124; Dangerous Intersection</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 21:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] his earlier post, Erich pointed out the justifiable contempt we should all have for guys like McClellan &#38; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] his earlier post, Erich pointed out the justifiable contempt we should all have for guys like McClellan &#38; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Erika Price</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/05/28/hey-scott-colin-its-too-damned-late-you-guys-missed-the-boat/#comment-18944</link>
		<dc:creator>Erika Price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 04:00:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it too little too late? Is it a change of heart? Is it better than nothing? Is it money-grubbing hypocrisy? I don't know, and I feel pretty excruciatingly ambivalent about the likes of McClellan and Powell. Does an after-the-fact tell-all absolve McClellan of guilt-by-association? I don't think so. But perhaps it is a step in the right direction...or a leap in the direction of a bandwagon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it too little too late? Is it a change of heart? Is it better than nothing? Is it money-grubbing hypocrisy? I don&#8217;t know, and I feel pretty excruciatingly ambivalent about the likes of McClellan and Powell. Does an after-the-fact tell-all absolve McClellan of guilt-by-association? I don&#8217;t think so. But perhaps it is a step in the right direction&#8230;or a leap in the direction of a bandwagon.</p>
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		<title>By: Erich Vieth</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/05/28/hey-scott-colin-its-too-damned-late-you-guys-missed-the-boat/#comment-18933</link>
		<dc:creator>Erich Vieth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 17:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here's old Scott talking about new Scott:



&lt;blockquote&gt;It's sad. It's just sad. In all my years of public service, I am one of the finest people I have ever had the privilege to know and work with. I cannot imagine why I have chosen this moment to turn against everything I have always stood for—lies, deception, secrets, double talk—unless it was for a six-figure book advance. 

And another thing: If I did not support the policies that I advocated—important policies, vital to my entire philosophy of government, such as making things up and challenging the patriotism of opponents—why didn't I say something at the time? As I used to tell me, my door was always open to myself. But as far as I know, I never uttered a peep of complaint or disagreement. And I ask you: Who would know if I didn't? &lt;/blockquote&gt;



The full post is called, &lt;a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2192371/?wpisrc=newsletter" rel="nofollow"&gt;"I hardly know me anymore." &lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s old Scott talking about new Scott:</p>
<blockquote><p>It&#8217;s sad. It&#8217;s just sad. In all my years of public service, I am one of the finest people I have ever had the privilege to know and work with. I cannot imagine why I have chosen this moment to turn against everything I have always stood for—lies, deception, secrets, double talk—unless it was for a six-figure book advance. </p>
<p>And another thing: If I did not support the policies that I advocated—important policies, vital to my entire philosophy of government, such as making things up and challenging the patriotism of opponents—why didn&#8217;t I say something at the time? As I used to tell me, my door was always open to myself. But as far as I know, I never uttered a peep of complaint or disagreement. And I ask you: Who would know if I didn&#8217;t? </p></blockquote>
<p>The full post is called, <a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2192371/?wpisrc=newsletter" rel="nofollow">&#8220;I hardly know me anymore.&#8221; </a></p>
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		<title>By: Erich Vieth</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/05/28/hey-scott-colin-its-too-damned-late-you-guys-missed-the-boat/#comment-18925</link>
		<dc:creator>Erich Vieth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 06:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While he was Press Secretary, here's what Scott McClellan said about others who criticized the Iraq invasion or criticized President Bush.  http://www.slatev.com/player.html?id=1578008544</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While he was Press Secretary, here&#8217;s what Scott McClellan said about others who criticized the Iraq invasion or criticized President Bush.  <a href="http://www.slatev.com/player.html?id=1578008544" rel="nofollow">http://www.slatev.com/player.html?id=1578008544</a></p>
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		<title>By: Erich Vieth</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/05/28/hey-scott-colin-its-too-damned-late-you-guys-missed-the-boat/#comment-18898</link>
		<dc:creator>Erich Vieth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 02:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McClellan is making the rounds these days, saying a lot of interesting things, including the possibility that he might vote for Obama.   http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/29/scott-mcclellan-on-obama_n_104182.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McClellan is making the rounds these days, saying a lot of interesting things, including the possibility that he might vote for Obama.   <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/29/scott-mcclellan-on-obama_n_104182.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/05/29/scott-mcclellan-on-obama_n_104182.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sharon</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/05/28/hey-scott-colin-its-too-damned-late-you-guys-missed-the-boat/#comment-18887</link>
		<dc:creator>Sharon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 15:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I soooo agree with what you have said.  Matter of fact, I just finished saying so in a propeller blog.  I have zero sympathy for McClellan.  He should've spoken up a long tme ago.  Same for Powell.  They stay; they played; they got paid!  It's too little, too late!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I soooo agree with what you have said.  Matter of fact, I just finished saying so in a propeller blog.  I have zero sympathy for McClellan.  He should&#8217;ve spoken up a long tme ago.  Same for Powell.  They stay; they played; they got paid!  It&#8217;s too little, too late!</p>
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		<title>By: Arif Ali</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/05/28/hey-scott-colin-its-too-damned-late-you-guys-missed-the-boat/#comment-18885</link>
		<dc:creator>Arif Ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 13:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this response to Scott McClellan - will any of his interviewers bring up these points? What unspoken emotion will McClellan feel when he speaks publicly about his book: will he feel like a hero or a loser? Or neither? Maybe as you imply, it's just part of his financial plan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this response to Scott McClellan - will any of his interviewers bring up these points? What unspoken emotion will McClellan feel when he speaks publicly about his book: will he feel like a hero or a loser? Or neither? Maybe as you imply, it&#8217;s just part of his financial plan.</p>
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		<title>By: Erich Vieth</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/05/28/hey-scott-colin-its-too-damned-late-you-guys-missed-the-boat/#comment-18876</link>
		<dc:creator>Erich Vieth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 23:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here's more on McClellan's new book, from MSNBC:



&lt;blockquote&gt;Now, two years after leaving the White House and eager to make money on his book, McClellan concludes Bush turned away from candor and honesty and misled the country about the reasons for going to war.

It wasn't about Saddam Hussein's supposed weapons of mass destruction, McClellan writes. It was Bush's fervor to transform the Middle East through the spread of democracy. "The Iraq war was not necessary," writes McClellan, who never hinted at any doubts or questioned his talking points when he was press secretary.

McClellan writes that Bush and his team sold the Iraq war by means of a "political propaganda campaign" in which contradictory evidence was ignored or discarded, caveats or qualifications to arguments were downplayed or dropped and "a dubious al-Qaida connection to Iraq was played up."

"We were more focused on creating a sense of gravity and urgency about the threat from Saddam Hussein than governing on the basis of the truths of the situation," McClellan wrote.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



&lt;a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24863127/page/2/" rel="nofollow"&gt;You'll find the full article here.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s more on McClellan&#8217;s new book, from MSNBC:</p>
<blockquote><p>Now, two years after leaving the White House and eager to make money on his book, McClellan concludes Bush turned away from candor and honesty and misled the country about the reasons for going to war.</p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t about Saddam Hussein&#8217;s supposed weapons of mass destruction, McClellan writes. It was Bush&#8217;s fervor to transform the Middle East through the spread of democracy. &#8220;The Iraq war was not necessary,&#8221; writes McClellan, who never hinted at any doubts or questioned his talking points when he was press secretary.</p>
<p>McClellan writes that Bush and his team sold the Iraq war by means of a &#8220;political propaganda campaign&#8221; in which contradictory evidence was ignored or discarded, caveats or qualifications to arguments were downplayed or dropped and &#8220;a dubious al-Qaida connection to Iraq was played up.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;We were more focused on creating a sense of gravity and urgency about the threat from Saddam Hussein than governing on the basis of the truths of the situation,&#8221; McClellan wrote.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24863127/page/2/" rel="nofollow">You&#8217;ll find the full article here.</a></p>
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