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	<title>Comments on: What it really means to &#8220;nuke&#8221; human beings</title>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/05/03/what-it-really-means-to-nuke-human-beings/#comment-21117</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 14:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently the holocaust pictures were not verified, and have been taken down, i'm sorry i missed this post.

I recently posted a story on netscape about the holocaust:

http://www.wagingpeace.org/articles/2003/08/01_krieger_remembering.htm
http://donoevil.propeller.com/story/2008/07/03/hiroshima-and-nagasaki-never-again

(interesting comments section)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently the holocaust pictures were not verified, and have been taken down, i&#8217;m sorry i missed this post.</p>
<p>I recently posted a story on netscape about the holocaust:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.wagingpeace.org/articles/2003/08/01_krieger_remembering.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.wagingpeace.org/articles/2003/08/01_krieger_remembering.htm</a><br />
<a href="http://donoevil.propeller.com/story/2008/07/03/hiroshima-and-nagasaki-never-again" rel="nofollow">http://donoevil.propeller.com/story/2008/07/03/hiroshima-and-nagasaki-never-again</a></p>
<p>(interesting comments section)</p>
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		<title>By: Erich Vieth</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/05/03/what-it-really-means-to-nuke-human-beings/#comment-18151</link>
		<dc:creator>Erich Vieth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 00:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm tempted to think that these neocons do their "war" activities because they bore themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m tempted to think that these neocons do their &#8220;war&#8221; activities because they bore themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: grumpypilgrim</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/05/03/what-it-really-means-to-nuke-human-beings/#comment-18149</link>
		<dc:creator>grumpypilgrim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 23:58:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The rhetoric that files around Washington in response to terrorism just astonishes me.  Whether it is crackpot neo-cons or others who are seeking to score political headlines (read:  Hillary), the notion that terrorism can be fought using nuclear weapons is as nonsensical as the notion that it can be fought with aircraft carriers and battleships.  Just consider the moronic expense that Bush has unleashed in response to a couple of dozen guys with box cutters and we can easily see the absurdity of their strategy.  They're fighting mosquitos with a bazooka.  Why?  Apparently because they like the sound that bazookas make.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rhetoric that files around Washington in response to terrorism just astonishes me.  Whether it is crackpot neo-cons or others who are seeking to score political headlines (read:  Hillary), the notion that terrorism can be fought using nuclear weapons is as nonsensical as the notion that it can be fought with aircraft carriers and battleships.  Just consider the moronic expense that Bush has unleashed in response to a couple of dozen guys with box cutters and we can easily see the absurdity of their strategy.  They&#8217;re fighting mosquitos with a bazooka.  Why?  Apparently because they like the sound that bazookas make.</p>
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		<title>By: Erich Vieth</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/05/03/what-it-really-means-to-nuke-human-beings/#comment-18085</link>
		<dc:creator>Erich Vieth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 00:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hillary Clinton advocates "obliteration," according to this statement: 



&lt;blockquote&gt;Nobody seems to have noticed that Hillary Clinton has broken international law by threatening Iran with 'obliteration.'

"I want the Iranians to know that if I'm the president, we will attack Iran," Clinton said in an interview with ABC. "In the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them."&lt;/blockquote&gt;



For the full article, &lt;a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ben-cohen/hillary-should-be-dismiss_b_100082.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;see here. &lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hillary Clinton advocates &#8220;obliteration,&#8221; according to this statement: </p>
<blockquote><p>Nobody seems to have noticed that Hillary Clinton has broken international law by threatening Iran with &#8216;obliteration.&#8217;</p>
<p>&#8220;I want the Iranians to know that if I&#8217;m the president, we will attack Iran,&#8221; Clinton said in an interview with ABC. &#8220;In the next 10 years, during which they might foolishly consider launching an attack on Israel, we would be able to totally obliterate them.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>For the full article, <a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ben-cohen/hillary-should-be-dismiss_b_100082.html" rel="nofollow">see here. </a></p>
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		<title>By: Dan Klarmann</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/05/03/what-it-really-means-to-nuke-human-beings/#comment-18054</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Klarmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 14:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pictures of nuked bodies don't look much different than the pictures I've seen of piles of bodies from WWI or stereograms I've seen from the Spanish American war.

Better descriptions of nuked bodies can be found. The depictions I've read by residents of Hiroshima who survived that day are much more striking. Or accounts written by those who were first in and trying to give aid to the dying.

Where nuking differs from gas or firestorm bombing is mainly in flash and radiation. Remember those who were flash-roasted on one side, and had the misfortune not to be hit by the shock wave. Consider those who were shielded from the heat of the flash, but not the gamma burst, so they took days to die of fever and failing organs. Mourn for those who breathed radioactive dust, and died from unusual cancers between weeks and decades later. Consider the simple horror of those who were not actually killed by the bomb itself, but rather by the total lack of amenities it brought; no water, no food, no medicine, no communications, no transportation. A nuke instantly reverts a city to the stone age.

Some books:
&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Hibakusha-Survivors-Hiroshima-Gaynor-Sekimori/dp/433301204X/ref=sr_1_19?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1209910621&#038;sr=1-19"  target="_blank" rel="nofollow"&gt;Hibakusha: Survivors of Hiroshima and Nagasaki&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Hiroshima-Diary-Japanese-Physician-6-September/dp/0807845477/ref=sr_1_21?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1209910621&#038;sr=1-21" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"&gt;Hiroshima Diary: The Journal of a Japanese Physician, August 6-September 30, 1945&lt;/a&gt;
&lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Rain-Ruin-Photographic-Hiroshima-Nagasaki/dp/157488221X/ref=sr_1_36?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1209910852&#038;sr=1-36" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"&gt;Rain of Ruin: A Photographic History of Hiroshima and Nagasaki&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pictures of nuked bodies don&#8217;t look much different than the pictures I&#8217;ve seen of piles of bodies from WWI or stereograms I&#8217;ve seen from the Spanish American war.</p>
<p>Better descriptions of nuked bodies can be found. The depictions I&#8217;ve read by residents of Hiroshima who survived that day are much more striking. Or accounts written by those who were first in and trying to give aid to the dying.</p>
<p>Where nuking differs from gas or firestorm bombing is mainly in flash and radiation. Remember those who were flash-roasted on one side, and had the misfortune not to be hit by the shock wave. Consider those who were shielded from the heat of the flash, but not the gamma burst, so they took days to die of fever and failing organs. Mourn for those who breathed radioactive dust, and died from unusual cancers between weeks and decades later. Consider the simple horror of those who were not actually killed by the bomb itself, but rather by the total lack of amenities it brought; no water, no food, no medicine, no communications, no transportation. A nuke instantly reverts a city to the stone age.</p>
<p>Some books:<br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Hibakusha-Survivors-Hiroshima-Gaynor-Sekimori/dp/433301204X/ref=sr_1_19?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1209910621&#038;sr=1-19"  target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Hibakusha: Survivors of Hiroshima and Nagasaki</a><br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Hiroshima-Diary-Japanese-Physician-6-September/dp/0807845477/ref=sr_1_21?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1209910621&#038;sr=1-21" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Hiroshima Diary: The Journal of a Japanese Physician, August 6-September 30, 1945</a><br />
<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Rain-Ruin-Photographic-Hiroshima-Nagasaki/dp/157488221X/ref=sr_1_36?ie=UTF8&#038;s=books&#038;qid=1209910852&#038;sr=1-36" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Rain of Ruin: A Photographic History of Hiroshima and Nagasaki</a></p>
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		<title>By: Edgar Montrose</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/05/03/what-it-really-means-to-nuke-human-beings/#comment-18052</link>
		<dc:creator>Edgar Montrose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 12:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Above-ground nuclear testing ended in the US in 1963.  Even though such testing continued in some other countries until as late as 1980, it is unlikely that many of our lawmakers have ever seen the effects of nuclear detonation first-hand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Above-ground nuclear testing ended in the US in 1963.  Even though such testing continued in some other countries until as late as 1980, it is unlikely that many of our lawmakers have ever seen the effects of nuclear detonation first-hand.</p>
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