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	<title>Comments on: What you can do with a philosophy degree.</title>
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		<title>By: Erich Vieth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erich Vieth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 14:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan:  I sometimes imagine putting 100 of the most dedicated Kant scholars in a single big room and telling them to apply the Categorical Imperative to figure out the proper answers to major moral conundra such as abortion, U.S. involvement in Iraq or whether it's OK to use marijuana.   If the CI is meaningful, all those philosophers should be able to resolve their differences peacefully.  

My guess is that there would be long heated arguments and that none of the philosophers would change his or her personal opinion by reference to the categorical imperative.  

The question, then: What real life value is the categorical imperative?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan:  I sometimes imagine putting 100 of the most dedicated Kant scholars in a single big room and telling them to apply the Categorical Imperative to figure out the proper answers to major moral conundra such as abortion, U.S. involvement in Iraq or whether it&#8217;s OK to use marijuana.   If the CI is meaningful, all those philosophers should be able to resolve their differences peacefully.  </p>
<p>My guess is that there would be long heated arguments and that none of the philosophers would change his or her personal opinion by reference to the categorical imperative.  </p>
<p>The question, then: What real life value is the categorical imperative?</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Klarmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Klarmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Philosophy as taught in college has always seemed an empty exercise to me. One learns to argue very precisely about the meaning of terms with no practical referent. That is, there seems to be a very careful avoidance of defining the terms being used in any concrete way.

As Erich points out, the ideas bandied about are so vague that thousands of distinct papers can be written about a particular idea without ever approaching a verifiable conclusion about what a given term might actually mean or how it should properly be applied.

Science is a branch of philosophy in which one first defines terms unambiguously before working with them. Every term has a precise logical and/or mathematical relationship to an everyday noun or verb. As in other branches of philosophy, the terms might resemble words in common usage. Like "theory" or "weight". But in science the meaning of these words is very specific. 

Or the term is posited to become specific. If experiments fail to cause a term to converge on a concrete idea, then the term is discarded. "Phlogiston" and "aether" are a couple of losers from previous centuries, whereas "string theory" and "dark matter" are still working on finding a solid definition. Odds are, at least one of these two will be replaced. But each term has in its definition the seeds of its own demise; how it can be eliminated.

But who can begin to try to eliminate "categorical imperative" or "essential essence" from the philosophical vocabulary? Or who can define them in such a way that everyone can agree on what they mean? 

Perhaps a primer in semantics should be a prerequisite for other philosophy courses. Better yet, teach semantics in high school. I've had many an argument with people who could not differentiate a word from an idea, an image from an object, or a map from a territory. This is the block that makes algebra word problems hard for people. 

But semantics is another branch within philosophy. And around we go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Philosophy as taught in college has always seemed an empty exercise to me. One learns to argue very precisely about the meaning of terms with no practical referent. That is, there seems to be a very careful avoidance of defining the terms being used in any concrete way.</p>
<p>As Erich points out, the ideas bandied about are so vague that thousands of distinct papers can be written about a particular idea without ever approaching a verifiable conclusion about what a given term might actually mean or how it should properly be applied.</p>
<p>Science is a branch of philosophy in which one first defines terms unambiguously before working with them. Every term has a precise logical and/or mathematical relationship to an everyday noun or verb. As in other branches of philosophy, the terms might resemble words in common usage. Like &#8220;theory&#8221; or &#8220;weight&#8221;. But in science the meaning of these words is very specific. </p>
<p>Or the term is posited to become specific. If experiments fail to cause a term to converge on a concrete idea, then the term is discarded. &#8220;Phlogiston&#8221; and &#8220;aether&#8221; are a couple of losers from previous centuries, whereas &#8220;string theory&#8221; and &#8220;dark matter&#8221; are still working on finding a solid definition. Odds are, at least one of these two will be replaced. But each term has in its definition the seeds of its own demise; how it can be eliminated.</p>
<p>But who can begin to try to eliminate &#8220;categorical imperative&#8221; or &#8220;essential essence&#8221; from the philosophical vocabulary? Or who can define them in such a way that everyone can agree on what they mean? </p>
<p>Perhaps a primer in semantics should be a prerequisite for other philosophy courses. Better yet, teach semantics in high school. I&#8217;ve had many an argument with people who could not differentiate a word from an idea, an image from an object, or a map from a territory. This is the block that makes algebra word problems hard for people. </p>
<p>But semantics is another branch within philosophy. And around we go.</p>
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		<title>By: Marlon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marlon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 04:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The few philosophy classes that I took were definitely among my favorites. To realize that things I sat around and pondered had been pondered for hundreds of years by really bright minds was an eyeopener for an 18-20 year old. Pondering is good. More people should try it. (This is probably the first four times that I have ever typed the word "pondering")

Anyway, as my grandpa used to say, "Sometimes I sit and think, and sometimes I just sit."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The few philosophy classes that I took were definitely among my favorites. To realize that things I sat around and pondered had been pondered for hundreds of years by really bright minds was an eyeopener for an 18-20 year old. Pondering is good. More people should try it. (This is probably the first four times that I have ever typed the word &#8220;pondering&#8221;)</p>
<p>Anyway, as my grandpa used to say, &#8220;Sometimes I sit and think, and sometimes I just sit.&#8221;</p>
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