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	<title>Comments on: Today&#8217;s not so bad news: My bicycle needs major repairs.</title>
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		<title>By: suggestion</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/03/29/todays-not-so-bad-news-my-bicycle-needs-major-repairs/#comment-17338</link>
		<dc:creator>suggestion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 01:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just fyi, on my road bike i get about 1,000 miles out of a chain. that means about 4 chain replacements/summer.  still a bargain not to pay for gas, and you get all those endorphin highs for free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just fyi, on my road bike i get about 1,000 miles out of a chain. that means about 4 chain replacements/summer.  still a bargain not to pay for gas, and you get all those endorphin highs for free.</p>
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		<title>By: grumpypilgrim</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/03/29/todays-not-so-bad-news-my-bicycle-needs-major-repairs/#comment-17335</link>
		<dc:creator>grumpypilgrim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 23:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Commuting puts a relatively high amount of wear on bicycle drivetrains, compared to drivetrains on bikes that are only ridden on sunny days.  Rain, sand, salt, road debris, etc., get into the chain links and cause a lot of wear.  Remember that grinding paste is just a mixture of grit and oil -- the same thing that accumulates on your chain.  One thing that helps is to clean and lube the chain frequently -- say, once a week -- using one of those chain cleaning gismos that clips onto the chain (e.g., Park Tool CM-5) and that flushes out the grit that's inside the rollers.  It's not enough to just add lube and it's not enough to just wipe the dirt from the external surface of the chain links -- you need to clean out the crud that's down inside the rollers.

Damage to cogs and chainrings happens when the chain "stretches."  I've put that in quotes, because the plates that hold the chain together don't actually stretch (none of us weighs enough to stress the steel chain plates beyond their yield point); what happens is that when the rollers wear on the inside, a gap opens between the rollers and the pins, and this gap allows the chain pins to pull farther apart than on a new chain.  This causes an apparent elongation of the chain that accelerates wear on the cogs and chainrings, because the chain no longer meshes evenly with all the gear teeth (thus spreading the wear evenly among many teeth); instead, the pedaling force becomes concentrated on only the first few links of the chain that contact the gears.  This greatly increases the contact pressure between the chain and gears which, when combined with the aforementioned grinding paste effect, rapidly wears out the gears.  The cogs, having fewer teeth than the chainrings, wear out first, but the chainrings will eventually wear out, too.

To minimize wear on the gears, it's prudent to not only clean the chain frequently, but to also replace the chain when it "stretches" too much.  Park Tool makes a $10 gauge (the CC-3 Chain Checker) that measures chain wear and will indicate when the chain needs replacing.  It's a worthwhile tool to own, because quality chains cost more than $10, so the gauge helps avoid replacing chains too often.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Commuting puts a relatively high amount of wear on bicycle drivetrains, compared to drivetrains on bikes that are only ridden on sunny days.  Rain, sand, salt, road debris, etc., get into the chain links and cause a lot of wear.  Remember that grinding paste is just a mixture of grit and oil &#8212; the same thing that accumulates on your chain.  One thing that helps is to clean and lube the chain frequently &#8212; say, once a week &#8212; using one of those chain cleaning gismos that clips onto the chain (e.g., Park Tool CM-5) and that flushes out the grit that&#8217;s inside the rollers.  It&#8217;s not enough to just add lube and it&#8217;s not enough to just wipe the dirt from the external surface of the chain links &#8212; you need to clean out the crud that&#8217;s down inside the rollers.</p>
<p>Damage to cogs and chainrings happens when the chain &#8220;stretches.&#8221;  I&#8217;ve put that in quotes, because the plates that hold the chain together don&#8217;t actually stretch (none of us weighs enough to stress the steel chain plates beyond their yield point); what happens is that when the rollers wear on the inside, a gap opens between the rollers and the pins, and this gap allows the chain pins to pull farther apart than on a new chain.  This causes an apparent elongation of the chain that accelerates wear on the cogs and chainrings, because the chain no longer meshes evenly with all the gear teeth (thus spreading the wear evenly among many teeth); instead, the pedaling force becomes concentrated on only the first few links of the chain that contact the gears.  This greatly increases the contact pressure between the chain and gears which, when combined with the aforementioned grinding paste effect, rapidly wears out the gears.  The cogs, having fewer teeth than the chainrings, wear out first, but the chainrings will eventually wear out, too.</p>
<p>To minimize wear on the gears, it&#8217;s prudent to not only clean the chain frequently, but to also replace the chain when it &#8220;stretches&#8221; too much.  Park Tool makes a $10 gauge (the CC-3 Chain Checker) that measures chain wear and will indicate when the chain needs replacing.  It&#8217;s a worthwhile tool to own, because quality chains cost more than $10, so the gauge helps avoid replacing chains too often.</p>
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		<title>By: suggestion</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/03/29/todays-not-so-bad-news-my-bicycle-needs-major-repairs/#comment-17304</link>
		<dc:creator>suggestion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 22:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"I’m disappointed that they didn’t do a better job, but it’s certainly not the end of the world."

When the end of the world does come, will there still be a Heaven?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’m disappointed that they didn’t do a better job, but it’s certainly not the end of the world.&#8221;</p>
<p>When the end of the world does come, will there still be a Heaven?</p>
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		<title>By: Edgar Montrose</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/03/29/todays-not-so-bad-news-my-bicycle-needs-major-repairs/#comment-17294</link>
		<dc:creator>Edgar Montrose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 17:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A sometimes serious, sometimes humorous, sometimes just plain weird discussion of chain and sprocket wear here:  http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/96ade73ad2511b72</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A sometimes serious, sometimes humorous, sometimes just plain weird discussion of chain and sprocket wear here:  <a href="http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/96ade73ad2511b72" rel="nofollow">http://groups.google.com/group/rec.bicycles.tech/browse_frm/thread/96ade73ad2511b72</a></p>
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		<title>By: Erich Vieth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erich Vieth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 17:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Suggestion: Your point is a good one.  I should have changed my chain.  Here's a bit of background: I was taking the bike in for a tune-up and inspection each year to a reputable-seeming bike shop (not the one that is now fixing the problem).  This was a $60 tune-up and inspection, so I expected them to tell me everything I needed to do and I would have done everything they suggested.   They never once mentioned that I should replace my chain. 

I'm disappointed that they didn't do a better job, but it's certainly not the end of the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suggestion: Your point is a good one.  I should have changed my chain.  Here&#8217;s a bit of background: I was taking the bike in for a tune-up and inspection each year to a reputable-seeming bike shop (not the one that is now fixing the problem).  This was a $60 tune-up and inspection, so I expected them to tell me everything I needed to do and I would have done everything they suggested.   They never once mentioned that I should replace my chain. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m disappointed that they didn&#8217;t do a better job, but it&#8217;s certainly not the end of the world.</p>
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		<title>By: suggestion</title>
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		<dc:creator>suggestion</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 14:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you probably messed up your crank teeth because you failed to replace your chain when you should have.  an ounce of prevention...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you probably messed up your crank teeth because you failed to replace your chain when you should have.  an ounce of prevention&#8230;</p>
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