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	<title>Comments on: The Fall of Spitzer</title>
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		<title>By: Mark Tiedemann</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/03/13/the-fall-of-spitzer/#comment-17026</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Tiedemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>projektleiterin

I don't think highly of him.  I'm not excusing straying outside of marriage, either, other than to suggest that it may not be the deep, twisted psychologically bewildering phenomenon so many people wish it to be.  People can be deep and profound in one area of their life and shallow or fickle in others, and this may be one example.

But while I agree, one shouldn't marry someone who doesn't "fit" one's needs or desires, it is also true that people change over time, and what may have been a mutually satisfying experience initially can become something less.

Be that as it may, this is something that ought to be worked out.  I do not condemn the use of call girls per se,  but the point of betrayal is usually not actually sleeping with someone else, but in hiding it and not dealing with the core issues.  

But that requires maturity, and everything I've read about Spitzer suggests strongly that he lacked exactly that.</description>
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<p>I don&#8217;t think highly of him.  I&#8217;m not excusing straying outside of marriage, either, other than to suggest that it may not be the deep, twisted psychologically bewildering phenomenon so many people wish it to be.  People can be deep and profound in one area of their life and shallow or fickle in others, and this may be one example.</p>
<p>But while I agree, one shouldn&#8217;t marry someone who doesn&#8217;t &#8220;fit&#8221; one&#8217;s needs or desires, it is also true that people change over time, and what may have been a mutually satisfying experience initially can become something less.</p>
<p>Be that as it may, this is something that ought to be worked out.  I do not condemn the use of call girls per se,  but the point of betrayal is usually not actually sleeping with someone else, but in hiding it and not dealing with the core issues.  </p>
<p>But that requires maturity, and everything I&#8217;ve read about Spitzer suggests strongly that he lacked exactly that.</p>
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		<title>By: projektleiterin</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/03/13/the-fall-of-spitzer/#comment-16854</link>
		<dc:creator>projektleiterin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why do you get married to someone knowing that you will never get this thing that you really like?

Also, I assume men like Spitzer hire deluxe prostitutes mainly because they are young and hot and not because they crave a certain sex practice that their wives deny them. Somehow I doubt that men visit prostitutes for certain techniques. So, craving a certain capriccio seems ok, but rejecting your partner sexually, and that's how I interpret going to a younger and hotter prostitute, does not seem very nice and a threat to the fundaments of the marriage (I might need to add that my idea of marriage includes the whole package, but I'm starting to suspect that a lot more people than I would have believed are quite happy with marrying someone whom they do not find very attractive, but is good at taking care of the house and the children. Sexual satisfaction they find somewhere else with not many qualms.)

This argument seems like an excuse for Spitzer, but if you call him an idiot it's probably safe to assume that you don't really think that highly of him and are not eager to defend him, Mark. :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do you get married to someone knowing that you will never get this thing that you really like?</p>
<p>Also, I assume men like Spitzer hire deluxe prostitutes mainly because they are young and hot and not because they crave a certain sex practice that their wives deny them. Somehow I doubt that men visit prostitutes for certain techniques. So, craving a certain capriccio seems ok, but rejecting your partner sexually, and that&#8217;s how I interpret going to a younger and hotter prostitute, does not seem very nice and a threat to the fundaments of the marriage (I might need to add that my idea of marriage includes the whole package, but I&#8217;m starting to suspect that a lot more people than I would have believed are quite happy with marrying someone whom they do not find very attractive, but is good at taking care of the house and the children. Sexual satisfaction they find somewhere else with not many qualms.)</p>
<p>This argument seems like an excuse for Spitzer, but if you call him an idiot it&#8217;s probably safe to assume that you don&#8217;t really think that highly of him and are not eager to defend him, Mark. <img src='http://dangerousintersection.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Mark Tiedemann</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/03/13/the-fall-of-spitzer/#comment-16824</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Tiedemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 23:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Three times on NPR today, various analysts commented on this and apparently the source of the money was already verified.

Interesting question about his wife, though.  How flush does one have to be before that much money is considered pocket change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Three times on NPR today, various analysts commented on this and apparently the source of the money was already verified.</p>
<p>Interesting question about his wife, though.  How flush does one have to be before that much money is considered pocket change.</p>
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		<title>By: Erich Vieth</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/03/13/the-fall-of-spitzer/#comment-16820</link>
		<dc:creator>Erich Vieth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder what "Huh?" wonders.   Was it really Spitzer's own money?  If so, did Spitzer's wife really not notice the $80,000 missing?  Truly, that's a lot cookie jar money.

I would bet that there's a much more interesting story regarding the source of the money than the sex itself.  Perhaps someone will dig out that story (or non-story).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder what &#8220;Huh?&#8221; wonders.   Was it really Spitzer&#8217;s own money?  If so, did Spitzer&#8217;s wife really not notice the $80,000 missing?  Truly, that&#8217;s a lot cookie jar money.</p>
<p>I would bet that there&#8217;s a much more interesting story regarding the source of the money than the sex itself.  Perhaps someone will dig out that story (or non-story).</p>
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		<title>By: HUH?</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/03/13/the-fall-of-spitzer/#comment-16813</link>
		<dc:creator>HUH?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 19:03:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"(it was his [Spitzer's] own money, not the state’s)"

How do you know that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;(it was his [Spitzer's] own money, not the state’s)&#8221;</p>
<p>How do you know that?</p>
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