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		<title>By: Erich Vieth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erich Vieth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 04:43:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here's an excerpt from Barry Schwartz' book:



&lt;blockquote&gt;In the pharmaceutical aisles, I found 61 varieties of suntan oil and sunblock, and 80 different pain relievers — aspirin, acetaminophen, ibuprofen; 350 milligrams or 500 milligrams; caplets, capsules, and tablets; coated or uncoated. There were 40 options for toothpaste, 150 lipsticks, 75 eyeliners, and 90 colors of nail polish from one brand alone. There were 116 kinds of skin cream, and 360 types of shampoo, conditioner, gel, and mousse. Next to them were 90 different cold remedies and decongestants. Finally, there was dental floss: waxed and unwaxed, flavored and unflavored, offered in a variety of thicknesses.

Returning to the food shelves, I could choose from among 230 soup offerings, including 29 different chicken soups. There were 16 varieties of instant mashed potatoes, 75 different instant gravies, 120 different pasta sauces. Among the 175 different salad dressings were 16 "Italian" dressings, and if none of them suited me, I could choose from 15 extra-virgin olive oils and 42 vinegars and make my own. There were 275 varieties of cereal, including 24 oatmeal options and 7 "Cheerios" options. Across the aisle were 64 different kinds of barbecue sauce and 175 types of tea bags.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s an excerpt from Barry Schwartz&#8217; book:</p>
<blockquote><p>In the pharmaceutical aisles, I found 61 varieties of suntan oil and sunblock, and 80 different pain relievers — aspirin, acetaminophen, ibuprofen; 350 milligrams or 500 milligrams; caplets, capsules, and tablets; coated or uncoated. There were 40 options for toothpaste, 150 lipsticks, 75 eyeliners, and 90 colors of nail polish from one brand alone. There were 116 kinds of skin cream, and 360 types of shampoo, conditioner, gel, and mousse. Next to them were 90 different cold remedies and decongestants. Finally, there was dental floss: waxed and unwaxed, flavored and unflavored, offered in a variety of thicknesses.</p>
<p>Returning to the food shelves, I could choose from among 230 soup offerings, including 29 different chicken soups. There were 16 varieties of instant mashed potatoes, 75 different instant gravies, 120 different pasta sauces. Among the 175 different salad dressings were 16 &#8220;Italian&#8221; dressings, and if none of them suited me, I could choose from 15 extra-virgin olive oils and 42 vinegars and make my own. There were 275 varieties of cereal, including 24 oatmeal options and 7 &#8220;Cheerios&#8221; options. Across the aisle were 64 different kinds of barbecue sauce and 175 types of tea bags.</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Artemis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Artemis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:52:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my word: tyranny. that's right. Too many choices is tyranny. 

That's why I shop at Trader Joes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my word: tyranny. that&#8217;s right. Too many choices is tyranny. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s why I shop at Trader Joes</p>
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		<title>By: grumpypilgrim</title>
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		<dc:creator>grumpypilgrim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Further to Edgar's post...one more word:  pet food.

What is also worth noting about grocery store shelves is product location.  Usually, name-brand items appear on the eye-level shelves, while more economical products appear way down near the floor.  Brand managers give all sorts of promotions to stores to help ensure such advantageous product placement.

Oh, and speaking of product placement, have you ever noticed that many clothing stores display their inventory by size...with the smallest sizes on high shelves and largest sizes on low shelves?  I once pointed this out to a store clerk and, even after I pointed out the problem, she just didn't seem to understand the absurdity of their practice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Further to Edgar&#8217;s post&#8230;one more word:  pet food.</p>
<p>What is also worth noting about grocery store shelves is product location.  Usually, name-brand items appear on the eye-level shelves, while more economical products appear way down near the floor.  Brand managers give all sorts of promotions to stores to help ensure such advantageous product placement.</p>
<p>Oh, and speaking of product placement, have you ever noticed that many clothing stores display their inventory by size&#8230;with the smallest sizes on high shelves and largest sizes on low shelves?  I once pointed this out to a store clerk and, even after I pointed out the problem, she just didn&#8217;t seem to understand the absurdity of their practice.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 00:13:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the beginning of this article, you mention that too much choice can paralyze us.  I agree with that completely, as I have seen it evidenced many times in tabletop roleplaying games (such as Dungeons &#38; Dragons or any of White Wolf's vampire or werewolf games to name a couple).
Without some sort of framework limiting the person playing the game,
the 'Wow, I could do anything!' idea quickly turns into '...so uh, what do I do..?'

But back to the original topic: the sheer number of 'choices' involved in getting even simple products probably causes us to waste a lot of time at a given grocery store unless we already know exactly what sub-type we're looking for (or are willing to accept). 
Of course, the more time we spend in a grocery store, the more likely we are to happen to see something that looks good and make an impulse purchase. I don't know how many times I've ended up buying crackers or donuts because my friends are indecisive and I'm waiting for them to finish shopping, and then I see the snack section...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the beginning of this article, you mention that too much choice can paralyze us.  I agree with that completely, as I have seen it evidenced many times in tabletop roleplaying games (such as Dungeons &amp; Dragons or any of White Wolf&#8217;s vampire or werewolf games to name a couple).<br />
Without some sort of framework limiting the person playing the game,<br />
the &#8216;Wow, I could do anything!&#8217; idea quickly turns into &#8216;&#8230;so uh, what do I do..?&#8217;</p>
<p>But back to the original topic: the sheer number of &#8216;choices&#8217; involved in getting even simple products probably causes us to waste a lot of time at a given grocery store unless we already know exactly what sub-type we&#8217;re looking for (or are willing to accept).<br />
Of course, the more time we spend in a grocery store, the more likely we are to happen to see something that looks good and make an impulse purchase. I don&#8217;t know how many times I&#8217;ve ended up buying crackers or donuts because my friends are indecisive and I&#8217;m waiting for them to finish shopping, and then I see the snack section&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Klarmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Klarmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 22:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let's not forget the other, invisible choice: "Don't need it." It costs less that all the other varieties, is easier on the environment, and you can save your resources for something else. E.G: Trade a year of gum in for a reasonably good digital camera, or a flight to the mountains or coast.

Shampoo: Can you actually tell the difference between hair washed with some particular "best", and hair washed with what is cheapest? I never could. 

One pays a premium for simple choices. I ate health-food store bulk peanut butter for a while. Ground at the store, and nothing added. Now I eat organic roasted almond butter, instead. The price is comparable, and I prefer the taste. But it took me 40 years to come to a final answer. Before I found "healthy" peanut butter, it was always what was cheap.

Peanut butter, like chlorine bleach, is a matter of market over needs. These two products were what marketing people came up with to collect money for disposing of a waste product. Peanuts were planted mainly to restore nitrogen to depleted fields back before WWII. Chlorine (sodium hypochlorite) is a major industrial byproduct, volatile and toxic. We buy it to make surfaces dead quickly, and temporarily. It also bleaches.

Speaking of bleach, take a look at the laundry aisle. An entire aisle of soaps and whiteners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s not forget the other, invisible choice: &#8220;Don&#8217;t need it.&#8221; It costs less that all the other varieties, is easier on the environment, and you can save your resources for something else. E.G: Trade a year of gum in for a reasonably good digital camera, or a flight to the mountains or coast.</p>
<p>Shampoo: Can you actually tell the difference between hair washed with some particular &#8220;best&#8221;, and hair washed with what is cheapest? I never could. </p>
<p>One pays a premium for simple choices. I ate health-food store bulk peanut butter for a while. Ground at the store, and nothing added. Now I eat organic roasted almond butter, instead. The price is comparable, and I prefer the taste. But it took me 40 years to come to a final answer. Before I found &#8220;healthy&#8221; peanut butter, it was always what was cheap.</p>
<p>Peanut butter, like chlorine bleach, is a matter of market over needs. These two products were what marketing people came up with to collect money for disposing of a waste product. Peanuts were planted mainly to restore nitrogen to depleted fields back before WWII. Chlorine (sodium hypochlorite) is a major industrial byproduct, volatile and toxic. We buy it to make surfaces dead quickly, and temporarily. It also bleaches.</p>
<p>Speaking of bleach, take a look at the laundry aisle. An entire aisle of soaps and whiteners.</p>
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		<title>By: Edgar Montrose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edgar Montrose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One word:  shampoo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One word:  shampoo.</p>
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		<title>By: Sylvie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sylvie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And then there are people like me who usually just want the basic original, even if old-fashioned, product. Just try to find it! It can take nearly as much time as if you were searching for the "very best" among dozens of choices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And then there are people like me who usually just want the basic original, even if old-fashioned, product. Just try to find it! It can take nearly as much time as if you were searching for the &#8220;very best&#8221; among dozens of choices.</p>
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		<title>By: Erika Price</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erika Price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 16:45:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My big "paradox of choice" item is gum. Now, gum is an entirely useless thing, yet I still struggle to decide on a type, as it comes in endless varieties and flavors. Whitening, non whitening. Hard, soft, stick. Different kinds of packages. Breath gum and candy gum and quit-smoking gum. Sugar free or not. Double mint, spearmint, cinnamon, bubble mint, melon, berry, lemon, mojito, peppermint, wintermint, orange. A new flavor seems to come out every month- a great way to sucker in buyers that enjoy a little useless novelty. All this trouble for something with no nutritional value or practical purpose at all! 

This absurdity goes even further when you consider the myriad kinds of candies in existence! I can think of about a dozen different types of Reese's Peanut Butter Cups alone. But I suppose we all get the picture at this point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My big &#8220;paradox of choice&#8221; item is gum. Now, gum is an entirely useless thing, yet I still struggle to decide on a type, as it comes in endless varieties and flavors. Whitening, non whitening. Hard, soft, stick. Different kinds of packages. Breath gum and candy gum and quit-smoking gum. Sugar free or not. Double mint, spearmint, cinnamon, bubble mint, melon, berry, lemon, mojito, peppermint, wintermint, orange. A new flavor seems to come out every month- a great way to sucker in buyers that enjoy a little useless novelty. All this trouble for something with no nutritional value or practical purpose at all! </p>
<p>This absurdity goes even further when you consider the myriad kinds of candies in existence! I can think of about a dozen different types of Reese&#8217;s Peanut Butter Cups alone. But I suppose we all get the picture at this point.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Klarmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Klarmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2008 13:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Schnucks has absorbed 2 other local chains in my memory; Bettendorf's in the 1960's and and National in the 1990's. Some smaller supermarkets still exist, but Schnucks does to those what they complain Walmart and Costco are doing to them.

Marketing people know that people want the illusion of choice. When the choice isn't real, then they manufacture apparent differences to widen the appeal.

Consider something as basic as milk. It used to come whole in bottles. Then The choice of homogenized and cream-on-top. Then skim. Then they branched out the amounts of fat to skim, 1/2%, 1%, 2% and whole, plus half-and-half (10%), light Cream (20%) and heavy cream (40%). Add vitamins. Now choose how organic: With or without hormones. Fed on grass or grain. Organic grain? Free range or dairy barn? California organic, or just USDA organic? Local dairy or long distance?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Schnucks has absorbed 2 other local chains in my memory; Bettendorf&#8217;s in the 1960&#8217;s and and National in the 1990&#8217;s. Some smaller supermarkets still exist, but Schnucks does to those what they complain Walmart and Costco are doing to them.</p>
<p>Marketing people know that people want the illusion of choice. When the choice isn&#8217;t real, then they manufacture apparent differences to widen the appeal.</p>
<p>Consider something as basic as milk. It used to come whole in bottles. Then The choice of homogenized and cream-on-top. Then skim. Then they branched out the amounts of fat to skim, 1/2%, 1%, 2% and whole, plus half-and-half (10%), light Cream (20%) and heavy cream (40%). Add vitamins. Now choose how organic: With or without hormones. Fed on grass or grain. Organic grain? Free range or dairy barn? California organic, or just USDA organic? Local dairy or long distance?</p>
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