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	<title>Comments on: Science - it is not just for the classroom anymore.</title>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 10:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Erika Price</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/02/06/science-it-is-not-just-for-the-classroom-anymore/#comment-16014</link>
		<dc:creator>Erika Price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 18:14:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few weeks ago, NPR's Talk of the Nation had a discussion with a former Presidential Science Adviser. Apparently, the Science Adviser once had an office in the White House, right in the middle of the political action. Now the Science Adviser is shelled away in a building down the street. But the President &lt;i&gt;needs&lt;/i&gt; his Science Adviser not only because so many scientific issues have become relevant today, but because a scientific perspective can illuminate many faulty claims and promote critical thinking. 

I don't know what good a science debate would do- only heathen geeks like us would watch it. Instead I'd just like to see more scientific topics covered in the mainstream campaign. We need to emphasize science's importance in everyday life, and make it more approachable to both the public and politicians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few weeks ago, NPR&#8217;s Talk of the Nation had a discussion with a former Presidential Science Adviser. Apparently, the Science Adviser once had an office in the White House, right in the middle of the political action. Now the Science Adviser is shelled away in a building down the street. But the President <i>needs</i> his Science Adviser not only because so many scientific issues have become relevant today, but because a scientific perspective can illuminate many faulty claims and promote critical thinking. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what good a science debate would do- only heathen geeks like us would watch it. Instead I&#8217;d just like to see more scientific topics covered in the mainstream campaign. We need to emphasize science&#8217;s importance in everyday life, and make it more approachable to both the public and politicians.</p>
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		<title>By: Erich Vieth</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/02/06/science-it-is-not-just-for-the-classroom-anymore/#comment-16011</link>
		<dc:creator>Erich Vieth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I signed up.  Thanks for the post.  This is a critically important issue.  Are we going to try to be cognizant of the intricacies of the world or are we content to continue our slide into superstition.  

Our government sets the tone for future research and it sends out lots of money to get research started (though that is changing to the detriment of pure science--design weapons and it's a different story).  

The sad state of government interference with science is summed up at the site of the Union of Concerned Scientists http://www.ucsusa.org/scientific_integrity/interference/ and in these political cartoons http://www.ucsusa.org/scientific_integrity/science_idol/science-idol-finalist-bios.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I signed up.  Thanks for the post.  This is a critically important issue.  Are we going to try to be cognizant of the intricacies of the world or are we content to continue our slide into superstition.  </p>
<p>Our government sets the tone for future research and it sends out lots of money to get research started (though that is changing to the detriment of pure science&#8211;design weapons and it&#8217;s a different story).  </p>
<p>The sad state of government interference with science is summed up at the site of the Union of Concerned Scientists <a href="http://www.ucsusa.org/scientific_integrity/interference/" rel="nofollow">http://www.ucsusa.org/scientific_integrity/interference/</a> and in these political cartoons <a href="http://www.ucsusa.org/scientific_integrity/science_idol/science-idol-finalist-bios.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ucsusa.org/scientific_integrity/science_idol/science-idol-finalist-bios.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dan Klarmann</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/02/06/science-it-is-not-just-for-the-classroom-anymore/#comment-16010</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Klarmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 17:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've been watching the whole Presidential Science Debate movement with interest. To nuanced thinkers, it looks like a good idea. However, a single-subject debate is unlikely to do any better than the regular debates in exposing how a candidate is likely to act, once elected. 

Any public debate will be an exchange of politically dangerous questions parried by barely relevant (at best) talking points. Several candidates have already come out as theology-over-science activists. Others are cagey, and don't actually say this. Still others work hard to give the impression that they can be reigned in by the church, even though they are only nominally religious.

In Dubya's final State of the Union address, he declared (in opposition of his every action) that government should not curtail scientific exploration nor censor disclosure. But later in the same speech he said that all science should be ruled by strong moral guidance. I'm guessing that his White House censorship of NIH, EPA, and FDA studies (among others) represents this guidance.

To an undereducated populace, an intellectual debate would only serve to separate the ivory-tower flip-floppers (evidence based thinkers) from the true leaders (purveyors of comforting sound bites).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been watching the whole Presidential Science Debate movement with interest. To nuanced thinkers, it looks like a good idea. However, a single-subject debate is unlikely to do any better than the regular debates in exposing how a candidate is likely to act, once elected. </p>
<p>Any public debate will be an exchange of politically dangerous questions parried by barely relevant (at best) talking points. Several candidates have already come out as theology-over-science activists. Others are cagey, and don&#8217;t actually say this. Still others work hard to give the impression that they can be reigned in by the church, even though they are only nominally religious.</p>
<p>In Dubya&#8217;s final State of the Union address, he declared (in opposition of his every action) that government should not curtail scientific exploration nor censor disclosure. But later in the same speech he said that all science should be ruled by strong moral guidance. I&#8217;m guessing that his White House censorship of NIH, EPA, and FDA studies (among others) represents this guidance.</p>
<p>To an undereducated populace, an intellectual debate would only serve to separate the ivory-tower flip-floppers (evidence based thinkers) from the true leaders (purveyors of comforting sound bites).</p>
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