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	<title>Comments on: I am not a woman. Are you?</title>
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		<title>By: Erika Price</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/02/06/i-am-not-a-woman-are-you/#comment-16414</link>
		<dc:creator>Erika Price</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Feb 2008 17:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CC- I don't have any secret. I just don't happen to have those physical ailments you do, nor do I think most women have them to the extent that it sounds like you do. Obviously you could try birth control or other medical treatment for it, but otherwise I think the big difference has to do with how you conceptualize the process. I guess I don't think of menstruation as some "womanly" process, but rather some natural process that some of us happen to encounter, and that others of us don't. Yes, menstruation indicates your "femaleness", but does it make you "a woman"? Perhaps this seems like a silly nuance to you, but a see a distinct difference between the biological and the sociocultural labels. One will always exist, but mostly doesn't matter; the latter is the big basket of associations and expectations that are handed to you, that do matter, but that you could throw away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CC- I don&#8217;t have any secret. I just don&#8217;t happen to have those physical ailments you do, nor do I think most women have them to the extent that it sounds like you do. Obviously you could try birth control or other medical treatment for it, but otherwise I think the big difference has to do with how you conceptualize the process. I guess I don&#8217;t think of menstruation as some &#8220;womanly&#8221; process, but rather some natural process that some of us happen to encounter, and that others of us don&#8217;t. Yes, menstruation indicates your &#8220;femaleness&#8221;, but does it make you &#8220;a woman&#8221;? Perhaps this seems like a silly nuance to you, but a see a distinct difference between the biological and the sociocultural labels. One will always exist, but mostly doesn&#8217;t matter; the latter is the big basket of associations and expectations that are handed to you, that do matter, but that you could throw away.</p>
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		<title>By: CC</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/02/06/i-am-not-a-woman-are-you/#comment-16268</link>
		<dc:creator>CC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 08:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would love to know what you women do to keep your menstrual cycles and the accompanying hormone fluctuations in check all the time so that you are not thinking about being a woman during one to two weeks out of the month.  I find it very difficult to deny that being biologically female has its disadvantages.  I'm a professional who must put on the same face every day for clients and colleagues, no matter what time of the month it is.  I know this is so cliche, but it is also very true.  It's unfair and extremely challenging.  I suffer from moderate to severe PMS symptoms, to include all the physical symptoms and a bit of PMDDish depression a couple of days as well.  Imagine a man going through all of that and still trying to act normal - ha, right!

We have set ourselves up to be equals in the workplace, but it will never happen as long as we have to work so hard to feel normal.  We will always be at a disadvantage in this way.  So, I would love to know the secret that keeps you all from thinking about womanhood.   I can't believe that it isn't a big part of your lives - unless you don't have a uterus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would love to know what you women do to keep your menstrual cycles and the accompanying hormone fluctuations in check all the time so that you are not thinking about being a woman during one to two weeks out of the month.  I find it very difficult to deny that being biologically female has its disadvantages.  I&#8217;m a professional who must put on the same face every day for clients and colleagues, no matter what time of the month it is.  I know this is so cliche, but it is also very true.  It&#8217;s unfair and extremely challenging.  I suffer from moderate to severe PMS symptoms, to include all the physical symptoms and a bit of PMDDish depression a couple of days as well.  Imagine a man going through all of that and still trying to act normal - ha, right!</p>
<p>We have set ourselves up to be equals in the workplace, but it will never happen as long as we have to work so hard to feel normal.  We will always be at a disadvantage in this way.  So, I would love to know the secret that keeps you all from thinking about womanhood.   I can&#8217;t believe that it isn&#8217;t a big part of your lives - unless you don&#8217;t have a uterus.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Klarmann</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/02/06/i-am-not-a-woman-are-you/#comment-16054</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Klarmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 03:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have never doubted my sexual preference, my gender identity, or my physical gender. In my own mind, at least.

In my teens I'd received quite a few passes from men. I was as oblivious to them as I was to the more subtle flirtations from girls. It's not that I was uninterested in the latter; I am just dumb in some ways. 

My teen appearance was quite androgynous. One of my nicknames was "locks" as in Goldi-, and I got very tired of answering "are you a boy or a girl?" I also resented the question, "Are you queer?" I was firmly and entirely attracted to girls, but I usually answered the dumb question with a flurry of long words to convey that I was indeed offbeat, but not gay. My prevailing mustache began as a shield against the gender question. 

Some people are still confused about me. I am a bit flamboyant, for a straight guy. I like some chick flicks, and Amy Tan. I get along quite comfortably with people who are most comfortable dating their own kind. Several are my friends. 
I have always been able to fit in with girl talk. Girls and women often seemed to forget that I wasn't actually one of them. Perhaps I unconsciously carried Dale Carnegie techniques too far. I was always a friend to the few girls in my classes who talked to me. 

I was somewhat surprised when I found out that the girl who finally overcame my stupidity and "made a man of me" later decided to do it to herself. She decided to become a man when her son was almost the age she was when she first "knew" me. His husband is supportive of the change. This doesn't affect my own sense of identity, though.

But gender is not a major characteristic at the root of my self image. When I am asked a simple "who are you?" sort of question, I usually answer with one or more of my vocations or hobbies: Computer Geek, Artist, rehabber, traveler, or the like. Maybe I simply neglect to answer that I am a man because it seems too obvious.

Someday I may have to decide what I want to be when I grow up. But I really doubt that it will be a woman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never doubted my sexual preference, my gender identity, or my physical gender. In my own mind, at least.</p>
<p>In my teens I&#8217;d received quite a few passes from men. I was as oblivious to them as I was to the more subtle flirtations from girls. It&#8217;s not that I was uninterested in the latter; I am just dumb in some ways. </p>
<p>My teen appearance was quite androgynous. One of my nicknames was &#8220;locks&#8221; as in Goldi-, and I got very tired of answering &#8220;are you a boy or a girl?&#8221; I also resented the question, &#8220;Are you queer?&#8221; I was firmly and entirely attracted to girls, but I usually answered the dumb question with a flurry of long words to convey that I was indeed offbeat, but not gay. My prevailing mustache began as a shield against the gender question. </p>
<p>Some people are still confused about me. I am a bit flamboyant, for a straight guy. I like some chick flicks, and Amy Tan. I get along quite comfortably with people who are most comfortable dating their own kind. Several are my friends.<br />
I have always been able to fit in with girl talk. Girls and women often seemed to forget that I wasn&#8217;t actually one of them. Perhaps I unconsciously carried Dale Carnegie techniques too far. I was always a friend to the few girls in my classes who talked to me. </p>
<p>I was somewhat surprised when I found out that the girl who finally overcame my stupidity and &#8220;made a man of me&#8221; later decided to do it to herself. She decided to become a man when her son was almost the age she was when she first &#8220;knew&#8221; me. His husband is supportive of the change. This doesn&#8217;t affect my own sense of identity, though.</p>
<p>But gender is not a major characteristic at the root of my self image. When I am asked a simple &#8220;who are you?&#8221; sort of question, I usually answer with one or more of my vocations or hobbies: Computer Geek, Artist, rehabber, traveler, or the like. Maybe I simply neglect to answer that I am a man because it seems too obvious.</p>
<p>Someday I may have to decide what I want to be when I grow up. But I really doubt that it will be a woman.</p>
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		<title>By: Vicki Baker</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/02/06/i-am-not-a-woman-are-you/#comment-16050</link>
		<dc:creator>Vicki Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2008 00:19:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I asked the zebra,
Are you black with white stripes?
Or white with black stripes?
And the zebra asked me,
Are you good with bad habits?
Or are you bad with good habits?
Are you noisy with quiet times?
Or are you quiet with noisy times?
Are you happy with sad days?
Or are you sad with happy days?
Are you neat with some sloppy ways?
Or are you sloppy with some neat ways?
And on and on and on and on
And on and on he went.
I'll never ask a zebra
About stripes
Again. 

-Shel Silverstein</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I asked the zebra,<br />
Are you black with white stripes?<br />
Or white with black stripes?<br />
And the zebra asked me,<br />
Are you good with bad habits?<br />
Or are you bad with good habits?<br />
Are you noisy with quiet times?<br />
Or are you quiet with noisy times?<br />
Are you happy with sad days?<br />
Or are you sad with happy days?<br />
Are you neat with some sloppy ways?<br />
Or are you sloppy with some neat ways?<br />
And on and on and on and on<br />
And on and on he went.<br />
I&#8217;ll never ask a zebra<br />
About stripes<br />
Again. </p>
<p>-Shel Silverstein</p>
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		<title>By: Erich Vieth</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/02/06/i-am-not-a-woman-are-you/#comment-16049</link>
		<dc:creator>Erich Vieth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 20:35:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is Barack Obama a candidate who happens to be black or is he a black candidate?   Here's a well-written article exploring the kind of person who considers himself to be.  http://www.salon.com/opinion/kamiya/2008/02/05/obama_race/index.html?source=rss&#038;aim=/opinion/kamiya</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Barack Obama a candidate who happens to be black or is he a black candidate?   Here&#8217;s a well-written article exploring the kind of person who considers himself to be.  <a href="http://www.salon.com/opinion/kamiya/2008/02/05/obama_race/index.html?source=rss&#038;aim=/opinion/kamiya" rel="nofollow">http://www.salon.com/opinion/kamiya/2008/02/05/obama_race/index.html?source=rss&#038;aim=/opinion/kamiya</a></p>
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		<title>By: Vicki Baker</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/02/06/i-am-not-a-woman-are-you/#comment-16047</link>
		<dc:creator>Vicki Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 17:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude, I have no idea!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, I have no idea!</p>
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		<title>By: Erich Vieth</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/02/06/i-am-not-a-woman-are-you/#comment-16042</link>
		<dc:creator>Erich Vieth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 04:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very funny video, Dude.  

Hey, Vicki, what is my identity if I go around calling women "Dude"?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very funny video, Dude.  </p>
<p>Hey, Vicki, what is my identity if I go around calling women &#8220;Dude&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Vicki Baker</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/02/06/i-am-not-a-woman-are-you/#comment-16041</link>
		<dc:creator>Vicki Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 03:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More information related to my previous comment: it may be possible to over-use the word "dude." See this advice on "Maintaining Your Heterosexual House of Cards":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iObGIkqhJJw</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More information related to my previous comment: it may be possible to over-use the word &#8220;dude.&#8221; See this advice on &#8220;Maintaining Your Heterosexual House of Cards&#8221;:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iObGIkqhJJw" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iObGIkqhJJw</a></p>
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		<title>By: lisa rokusek</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/02/06/i-am-not-a-woman-are-you/#comment-16038</link>
		<dc:creator>lisa rokusek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gender is such a very interestingly charged topic.  I think that many of the traits and "experiences" we identify as particularly gendered I see as constructions - actually in my mind gender itself has become more of a construction - especially as I am exposed to more fluidity as people modify their bodies in way that suits a particular gender identity that may not fit fixed characteristics. 

But I have to say that I find myself being aware of being a woman quite often, particularly in a professional capacity while working in a primarily male-dominated technology niche.  If I act in an assertive way I risk a very real backlash.  I am quite aware that I immediately have to establish my knowledge in a way that a man, perhaps, might not or be relegated to the back of the line.  These are all subjective experiences, but they happen enough that I would be foolish to ignore them.

When out walking alone at night I feel very vulnerable, but a man might well feel that way too - though I wonder if a woman feels especially vulnerable - perhaps not.

While I may not place the identifier "woman" at the top of my list of important traits, there is no doubt it plays a very strong role in how people define or even just interact with me.    I try to think of people as people, but things like gender, sexual orientation, ethnicity, socio-economic reality, and a zillion other things do inform who we are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gender is such a very interestingly charged topic.  I think that many of the traits and &#8220;experiences&#8221; we identify as particularly gendered I see as constructions - actually in my mind gender itself has become more of a construction - especially as I am exposed to more fluidity as people modify their bodies in way that suits a particular gender identity that may not fit fixed characteristics. </p>
<p>But I have to say that I find myself being aware of being a woman quite often, particularly in a professional capacity while working in a primarily male-dominated technology niche.  If I act in an assertive way I risk a very real backlash.  I am quite aware that I immediately have to establish my knowledge in a way that a man, perhaps, might not or be relegated to the back of the line.  These are all subjective experiences, but they happen enough that I would be foolish to ignore them.</p>
<p>When out walking alone at night I feel very vulnerable, but a man might well feel that way too - though I wonder if a woman feels especially vulnerable - perhaps not.</p>
<p>While I may not place the identifier &#8220;woman&#8221; at the top of my list of important traits, there is no doubt it plays a very strong role in how people define or even just interact with me.    I try to think of people as people, but things like gender, sexual orientation, ethnicity, socio-economic reality, and a zillion other things do inform who we are.</p>
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		<title>By: Vicki Baker</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/02/06/i-am-not-a-woman-are-you/#comment-16037</link>
		<dc:creator>Vicki Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2008 19:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This may not be totally on topic, but here are some reflections on dude-itude, courtesy of Bud Light:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmFBOVZ6BLM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This may not be totally on topic, but here are some reflections on dude-itude, courtesy of Bud Light:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmFBOVZ6BLM" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmFBOVZ6BLM</a></p>
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