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	<title>Comments on: Don&#8217;t mistakenly conclude that &#8220;experts&#8221; are wise.</title>
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		<title>By: bassmanpete</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2008/01/02/dont-mistakenly-conclude-that-experts-are-wise/comment-page-1/#comment-15581</link>
		<dc:creator>bassmanpete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 23:50:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many years ago I was told that the word expert is derived from 'ex', a has-been, and 'spurt', a drip :) Not sure if you use that word in the US but a drip in the UK is a stupid, dull or boring person.

Round about the turn of the century gold was US$250 an ounce. The financial 'experts' were saying that gold had had it's day and was no longer important in the modern economy. Have you checked the price recently? US$869 an ounce.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many years ago I was told that the word expert is derived from &#8216;ex&#8217;, a has-been, and &#8217;spurt&#8217;, a drip <img src='http://dangerousintersection.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> Not sure if you use that word in the US but a drip in the UK is a stupid, dull or boring person.</p>
<p>Round about the turn of the century gold was US$250 an ounce. The financial &#8216;experts&#8217; were saying that gold had had it&#8217;s day and was no longer important in the modern economy. Have you checked the price recently? US$869 an ounce.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Klarmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Klarmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 18:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've always been a generalist. I read omnivorously and follow random turns in the alleys of ideas until they might eventually meet up again with whatever subject I may nominally be studying. I was amazed to discover in college at how little most professors knew about subjects outside of their own fields. Many experts I've known in the "real world" are expert at accomplishing particular tasks, but are unaware of even the evolution of their own fields. They know the formula to use, but not where it came from or what it means.

I've been the resident expert in several fields at various jobs. All I had to do was know 1% more than the next most knowledgeable fellow (engineers, forgive the gender). This was easy to do, because the arcana of a specialty usually had analogues in another field that I had already studied, but with different words for the same ideas.

I've also known quite a few medical doctors of various specialties. Few had an understanding of health as a holistic practice. Many were essentially salesmen for pharmaceuticals and test equipment. They listen to a list of symptoms, and match that to the product they had.

&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piet_Hein_(Denmark)" target="_blank" title="Wiki: Piet Hein" rel="nofollow"&gt;Piet Hein&lt;/a&gt; puts it nicely:&lt;blockquote&gt;My faith in doctors
     is immense.
Just one thing spoils it;
     their pretense
of authorized
     omniscience.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The problem here in the blogosphere is to guess at the credentials of everyone who makes a proclamation. I am not an expert Bible scholar, for example. I only read each complete verse that I am discussing, plus a few on either side of it in context, in a variety of translations, plus at least one discussion of that verse for each side of the issue, before declaring my own opinion. I might also look up some bibliographical earlier sources for the idea or quote, and maybe wander into some changing interpretations of the quote over time.
My bet is that this is more study than many self-proclaimed online "experts" put into it. 

But, I'm no expert.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always been a generalist. I read omnivorously and follow random turns in the alleys of ideas until they might eventually meet up again with whatever subject I may nominally be studying. I was amazed to discover in college at how little most professors knew about subjects outside of their own fields. Many experts I&#8217;ve known in the &#8220;real world&#8221; are expert at accomplishing particular tasks, but are unaware of even the evolution of their own fields. They know the formula to use, but not where it came from or what it means.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been the resident expert in several fields at various jobs. All I had to do was know 1% more than the next most knowledgeable fellow (engineers, forgive the gender). This was easy to do, because the arcana of a specialty usually had analogues in another field that I had already studied, but with different words for the same ideas.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also known quite a few medical doctors of various specialties. Few had an understanding of health as a holistic practice. Many were essentially salesmen for pharmaceuticals and test equipment. They listen to a list of symptoms, and match that to the product they had.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piet_Hein_(Denmark)" target="_blank" title="Wiki: Piet Hein" rel="nofollow">Piet Hein</a> puts it nicely:<br />
<blockquote>My faith in doctors<br />
     is immense.<br />
Just one thing spoils it;<br />
     their pretense<br />
of authorized<br />
     omniscience.</p></blockquote>
<p>The problem here in the blogosphere is to guess at the credentials of everyone who makes a proclamation. I am not an expert Bible scholar, for example. I only read each complete verse that I am discussing, plus a few on either side of it in context, in a variety of translations, plus at least one discussion of that verse for each side of the issue, before declaring my own opinion. I might also look up some bibliographical earlier sources for the idea or quote, and maybe wander into some changing interpretations of the quote over time.<br />
My bet is that this is more study than many self-proclaimed online &#8220;experts&#8221; put into it. </p>
<p>But, I&#8217;m no expert.</p>
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		<title>By: Alison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 15:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's an observation we'd all do well to make note of.  At one point, I spent a good deal of time with people who were knowledgeable enough in their various fields to be quite financially successful in them.  (This was when I was a church member in an Upper-Middle to Upper-Class town.)  The longer I knew these people, even though I liked most of them quite a bit, the more it became clear to me that their obvious expertise in a particular field did not spread out to other areas.  In some professions, a serious time commitment to the job and keeping current with new developments precludes doing anything else except some recreational pursuits.  For some people, the expertise rises from an interest in their field that excludes almost anything else.  Among the successful experts, I was not finding too many Renaissance Men (or Women).  

I once had a friend who said that she wanted a man who was truly erudite, so she was going to look for a Doctor.  Several of us insisted that the Doctor would be smarter in medicine, but would not have the time to get up to speed on the other issues that interested her - classic American Literature, current events, graphic art, and so on.  I told her that I'd socialized with Doctors, and I'd socialized with Plumbers, Bookstore Clerks, Starving Artists, and found the latter to be more well-rounded and mentally stimulating, but she wouldn't budge.  

I would take the word of an expert, regarding something in his field of expertise, over the word of a layman.  Outside of his field, though, an expert's opinion is just that, and no more valid than anyone else's (maybe less so. . .)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s an observation we&#8217;d all do well to make note of.  At one point, I spent a good deal of time with people who were knowledgeable enough in their various fields to be quite financially successful in them.  (This was when I was a church member in an Upper-Middle to Upper-Class town.)  The longer I knew these people, even though I liked most of them quite a bit, the more it became clear to me that their obvious expertise in a particular field did not spread out to other areas.  In some professions, a serious time commitment to the job and keeping current with new developments precludes doing anything else except some recreational pursuits.  For some people, the expertise rises from an interest in their field that excludes almost anything else.  Among the successful experts, I was not finding too many Renaissance Men (or Women).  </p>
<p>I once had a friend who said that she wanted a man who was truly erudite, so she was going to look for a Doctor.  Several of us insisted that the Doctor would be smarter in medicine, but would not have the time to get up to speed on the other issues that interested her - classic American Literature, current events, graphic art, and so on.  I told her that I&#8217;d socialized with Doctors, and I&#8217;d socialized with Plumbers, Bookstore Clerks, Starving Artists, and found the latter to be more well-rounded and mentally stimulating, but she wouldn&#8217;t budge.  </p>
<p>I would take the word of an expert, regarding something in his field of expertise, over the word of a layman.  Outside of his field, though, an expert&#8217;s opinion is just that, and no more valid than anyone else&#8217;s (maybe less so. . .)</p>
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