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	<title>Comments on: A brave yet curmudgeonly man visits The American Girl Store.</title>
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		<title>By: Reasa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reasa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Oct 2008 01:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No offence to parents as being a child myself ......im 14....But I had an american girl doll....and i do realize dolls are expensive....But...You have to realize they are very good....the perfect things are made with it ....plus the hair Can have HIGLIGHTS come on....your child wants to be just like a plastic doll....Let your kids live a little i mean my hair is pink i also think american girl dolls should be aloud to have makeup.....i think it would be a cute idea.....:P i mean u may think im retartedd cause im a Kid....But comone.....people are people and kids are kids let them live</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No offence to parents as being a child myself &#8230;&#8230;im 14&#8230;.But I had an american girl doll&#8230;.and i do realize dolls are expensive&#8230;.But&#8230;You have to realize they are very good&#8230;.the perfect things are made with it &#8230;.plus the hair Can have HIGLIGHTS come on&#8230;.your child wants to be just like a plastic doll&#8230;.Let your kids live a little i mean my hair is pink i also think american girl dolls should be aloud to have makeup&#8230;..i think it would be a cute idea&#8230;..:P i mean u may think im retartedd cause im a Kid&#8230;.But comone&#8230;..people are people and kids are kids let them live</p>
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		<title>By: Lehua</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2007/12/08/a-brave-yet-curmudgeonly-man-visits-the-american-girl-store/#comment-22121</link>
		<dc:creator>Lehua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 09:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yikes!  My daughter is only 22 months old, but I cringe thinking about the days ahead when advertising and consumerism may affect her more.  The problem with the American Girls stuff is that it is SO DARN CUTE and friggin' expensive!  I think the hair salon and the doll hospital are such cute ideas.  But it seems so wrong to charge so much money!  My own home is set up like a mini children's museum, with lots of opportunities for pretend play.  Lately, I have been thinking about setting up a one-of-a-kind doll hospital (pretend, no actual repairs) and beauty salon, and county office where kids can apply for birth certificates.  It would be more of a punk rock beauty salon, and more of a free clinic than a hospital, etc.  I would only be open a few days a week and ask for a $1 donation.  Or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yikes!  My daughter is only 22 months old, but I cringe thinking about the days ahead when advertising and consumerism may affect her more.  The problem with the American Girls stuff is that it is SO DARN CUTE and friggin&#8217; expensive!  I think the hair salon and the doll hospital are such cute ideas.  But it seems so wrong to charge so much money!  My own home is set up like a mini children&#8217;s museum, with lots of opportunities for pretend play.  Lately, I have been thinking about setting up a one-of-a-kind doll hospital (pretend, no actual repairs) and beauty salon, and county office where kids can apply for birth certificates.  It would be more of a punk rock beauty salon, and more of a free clinic than a hospital, etc.  I would only be open a few days a week and ask for a $1 donation.  Or not.</p>
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		<title>By: katherine</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2007/12/08/a-brave-yet-curmudgeonly-man-visits-the-american-girl-store/#comment-21493</link>
		<dc:creator>katherine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:04:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>american girl dolls are great friends for your daughters. I have some(im 10) and they are super fun! at the doll place in Chicago the dolls are treated like the girls because they are what the store sells and off of all of these fun services for the dolls and girls, the company makes money to keep the girls happy. For girls AG stores are fun places you can go to have fun wit your doll. So what if their plastic, would your daughter be mad if she read this article you wrote? YAH! BAD DAD! you are limiting your daughters creativeness !BAD! !BAD! !BAD! !DAD!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>american girl dolls are great friends for your daughters. I have some(im 10) and they are super fun! at the doll place in Chicago the dolls are treated like the girls because they are what the store sells and off of all of these fun services for the dolls and girls, the company makes money to keep the girls happy. For girls AG stores are fun places you can go to have fun wit your doll. So what if their plastic, would your daughter be mad if she read this article you wrote? YAH! BAD DAD! you are limiting your daughters creativeness !BAD! !BAD! !BAD! !DAD!</p>
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		<title>By: Erich Vieth</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2007/12/08/a-brave-yet-curmudgeonly-man-visits-the-american-girl-store/#comment-15289</link>
		<dc:creator>Erich Vieth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:11:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I only said VP because that's the title that banks hand out so often.  Since it's your company, you can be the Emperor, if that's what you think will fly.  If you call yourself VP, though, people will think that your company has at least two employees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I only said VP because that&#8217;s the title that banks hand out so often.  Since it&#8217;s your company, you can be the Emperor, if that&#8217;s what you think will fly.  If you call yourself VP, though, people will think that your company has at least two employees.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Pulcinella</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2007/12/08/a-brave-yet-curmudgeonly-man-visits-the-american-girl-store/#comment-15288</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Pulcinella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erich: I should! Michael Jackson did it! HE was the first person to call himself The King of Pop, and the media picked it up. Then Howard Stern called himself The King of All Media and again they picked it up!

So...who's the "President"? Michael Moore??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erich: I should! Michael Jackson did it! HE was the first person to call himself The King of Pop, and the media picked it up. Then Howard Stern called himself The King of All Media and again they picked it up!</p>
<p>So&#8230;who&#8217;s the &#8220;President&#8221;? Michael Moore??</p>
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		<title>By: Erich Vieth</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2007/12/08/a-brave-yet-curmudgeonly-man-visits-the-american-girl-store/#comment-15286</link>
		<dc:creator>Erich Vieth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 18:01:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike: Why not just go all out and call yourself "Vice-President of Documentary Film-making"?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike: Why not just go all out and call yourself &#8220;Vice-President of Documentary Film-making&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Pulcinella</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2007/12/08/a-brave-yet-curmudgeonly-man-visits-the-american-girl-store/#comment-15285</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Pulcinella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:39:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In order to get more natural interviews and  candid footage I have perfected a way of surreptitiously shooting video using the side viewscreen in such a way that my subject never knows if the camera is on or not. I never lift it to my face. I would still need something less conspicuous than my GL2 to shoot in Toys R Us but I'm sure I could pull it off without too much fanfare if I had a smaller camcorder. If I don't get arrested I'll let you know how it works out!

By the way, I started my videography business as a way of justifying my own overzealousness! Now I'm a "documentary filmmaker" and not just old annoying Uncle Mike who videotapes everything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In order to get more natural interviews and  candid footage I have perfected a way of surreptitiously shooting video using the side viewscreen in such a way that my subject never knows if the camera is on or not. I never lift it to my face. I would still need something less conspicuous than my GL2 to shoot in Toys R Us but I&#8217;m sure I could pull it off without too much fanfare if I had a smaller camcorder. If I don&#8217;t get arrested I&#8217;ll let you know how it works out!</p>
<p>By the way, I started my videography business as a way of justifying my own overzealousness! Now I&#8217;m a &#8220;documentary filmmaker&#8221; and not just old annoying Uncle Mike who videotapes everything.</p>
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		<title>By: Erich Vieth</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2007/12/08/a-brave-yet-curmudgeonly-man-visits-the-american-girl-store/#comment-15280</link>
		<dc:creator>Erich Vieth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike:  I haven't shot any video in any store (yet).  I would think that the process of holding a video camera up to your face for minutes at a time would really make you conspicuous, especially if you are using pro gear.  My method was to just pull out a small digital camera for a quick shot here and there.  It was over almost before it began.  But then again, I don't have any cool video to show for my efforts.  

Thanks for the disclaimer, Mike.  But I'm afraid that I might sometimes qualify as both a tourist (a very touristy tourist) and an overzealous dad.  I did NOT drop a big wad of money at the American Girl store, however . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike:  I haven&#8217;t shot any video in any store (yet).  I would think that the process of holding a video camera up to your face for minutes at a time would really make you conspicuous, especially if you are using pro gear.  My method was to just pull out a small digital camera for a quick shot here and there.  It was over almost before it began.  But then again, I don&#8217;t have any cool video to show for my efforts.  </p>
<p>Thanks for the disclaimer, Mike.  But I&#8217;m afraid that I might sometimes qualify as both a tourist (a very touristy tourist) and an overzealous dad.  I did NOT drop a big wad of money at the American Girl store, however . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Pulcinella</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2007/12/08/a-brave-yet-curmudgeonly-man-visits-the-american-girl-store/#comment-15279</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Pulcinella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 15:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think my pro gear is too intimidating. (See my DI pic.) I need to get a small consumer videocam so that I look like any other tourist or overzealous dad videotaping everything he sees. 

I don't mean YOU, Erich!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think my pro gear is too intimidating. (See my DI pic.) I need to get a small consumer videocam so that I look like any other tourist or overzealous dad videotaping everything he sees. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mean YOU, Erich!</p>
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		<title>By: Erich Vieth</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2007/12/08/a-brave-yet-curmudgeonly-man-visits-the-american-girl-store/#comment-15252</link>
		<dc:creator>Erich Vieth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 19:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike: Whether I would be allowed to take the photos in the store certainly occurred to me prior to going. Erika Price had raised this same issue regarding two posts I wrote about the magazines and books sold by Wal-Mart (see &lt;a href="http://dangerousintersection.org/?p=312" target="_blank"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="http://dangerousintersection.org/?p=603" target="_blank"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;).

Here's how I approached it. I was a legitimate customer (I actually bought some accessories for my daughter's Kaya doll during the visit when I took the photos).  [note to Tim Hogan: they were relatively &lt;em&gt;inexpensive&lt;/em&gt; accessories] [Note to my daughter who now reads fairly well: they were &lt;em&gt;significant&lt;/em&gt; purchases]. Because I was in the store to actually shop, I had the right to be where I was. I didn't see any prohibition regarding taking photos--no signs told me to not take a photo. American Girl is also somewhat of a tourist hot spot, and I'm sure I'm not the first person to snap a few pics. I am pretty unobtrusive--I've got it down to a quick procedure that starts with having a small camera hanging--ready to go--around my neck. I avoid taking the images of any customers. I'm sure it's easier and less threatening to use a still camera than that video camera you must be using.

If confronted, I would be polite and explain what I was doing, and cease if they asked me to cease--after all, I'm in the store as an "invitee" (legally speaking), and my status as a permissive user can be withdrawn at the discretion of the store, as long as it's not for a Constitutionally protected reason (e.g., race, religion). If I got desperate, I could even take out my ID Card showing that I'm an &lt;a href="http://dangerousintersection.org/?p=1301" target="_blank"&gt;ordained minister with the Universal Life Church!&lt;/a&gt;  That would give me some immunity, right?  On the practical side of the issue, why &lt;em&gt;wouldn't&lt;/em&gt; they want me looking around and memorializing all of that exotic merchandise? I might tell others about the things I saw. I might thus be an unwitting advertiser.

I had a bit more luck than you did in &lt;a href="http://dangerousintersection.org/?p=493 " target="_blank"&gt;Toys R Us.&lt;/a&gt;

I think that the bottom line is that a store might not care in a practical sense, as long as amateur anthropologists like you and I are inobtrusive and we avoid intruding on the rights of other customers. Otherwise, to the extent that a business disallows customers to take photos of the things they are selling, I do wonder-- What do they have to hide?

Speaking of which, I was stranded in Las Vegas from September 11-13, 2001 (I had been visiting the North Rim of the Grand Canyon and was trying to fly home from LV on 9/11/01). I would not advise walking around any casino with a camera. I merely snapped one photo of a band that was playing near an entrance to the massive MGM Grand, when a 6' 5" security guard appeared suddenly and rudely scolding me to put the camera away immediately.  Back then, I remember thinking &lt;em&gt;too bad our airports didn't have this kind of aggressive security guard working on 9/11.&lt;/em&gt;

I would have loved to take some photos of the customers at the casinos, but didn't want to invade their privacy and the security guy clearly gave me the message. What fascinated me was that so many people were willing to do frivolous things at a casino on the same day when the so many Americans died in a horrible tragedy and it SEEMED that civilization as we knew it was ending (based on the news reports). But there they were, gambling, drinking, laughing. The casinos were not completely full on the evening of 9/11/01, but they seemed to be at least half full, a fact that was verified by some employees to whom I spoke.  What kind of person goes to a casino to have fun on the evening of 9/11/01, I wondered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike: Whether I would be allowed to take the photos in the store certainly occurred to me prior to going. Erika Price had raised this same issue regarding two posts I wrote about the magazines and books sold by Wal-Mart (see <a href="http://dangerousintersection.org/?p=312" target="_blank">here</a> and <a href="http://dangerousintersection.org/?p=603" target="_blank">here</a>).</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s how I approached it. I was a legitimate customer (I actually bought some accessories for my daughter&#8217;s Kaya doll during the visit when I took the photos).  [note to Tim Hogan: they were relatively <em>inexpensive</em> accessories] [Note to my daughter who now reads fairly well: they were <em>significant</em> purchases]. Because I was in the store to actually shop, I had the right to be where I was. I didn&#8217;t see any prohibition regarding taking photos&#8211;no signs told me to not take a photo. American Girl is also somewhat of a tourist hot spot, and I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;m not the first person to snap a few pics. I am pretty unobtrusive&#8211;I&#8217;ve got it down to a quick procedure that starts with having a small camera hanging&#8211;ready to go&#8211;around my neck. I avoid taking the images of any customers. I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s easier and less threatening to use a still camera than that video camera you must be using.</p>
<p>If confronted, I would be polite and explain what I was doing, and cease if they asked me to cease&#8211;after all, I&#8217;m in the store as an &#8220;invitee&#8221; (legally speaking), and my status as a permissive user can be withdrawn at the discretion of the store, as long as it&#8217;s not for a Constitutionally protected reason (e.g., race, religion). If I got desperate, I could even take out my ID Card showing that I&#8217;m an <a href="http://dangerousintersection.org/?p=1301" target="_blank">ordained minister with the Universal Life Church!</a>  That would give me some immunity, right?  On the practical side of the issue, why <em>wouldn&#8217;t</em> they want me looking around and memorializing all of that exotic merchandise? I might tell others about the things I saw. I might thus be an unwitting advertiser.</p>
<p>I had a bit more luck than you did in <a href="http://dangerousintersection.org/?p=493 " target="_blank">Toys R Us.</a></p>
<p>I think that the bottom line is that a store might not care in a practical sense, as long as amateur anthropologists like you and I are inobtrusive and we avoid intruding on the rights of other customers. Otherwise, to the extent that a business disallows customers to take photos of the things they are selling, I do wonder&#8211; What do they have to hide?</p>
<p>Speaking of which, I was stranded in Las Vegas from September 11-13, 2001 (I had been visiting the North Rim of the Grand Canyon and was trying to fly home from LV on 9/11/01). I would not advise walking around any casino with a camera. I merely snapped one photo of a band that was playing near an entrance to the massive MGM Grand, when a 6&#8242; 5&#8243; security guard appeared suddenly and rudely scolding me to put the camera away immediately.  Back then, I remember thinking <em>too bad our airports didn&#8217;t have this kind of aggressive security guard working on 9/11.</em></p>
<p>I would have loved to take some photos of the customers at the casinos, but didn&#8217;t want to invade their privacy and the security guy clearly gave me the message. What fascinated me was that so many people were willing to do frivolous things at a casino on the same day when the so many Americans died in a horrible tragedy and it SEEMED that civilization as we knew it was ending (based on the news reports). But there they were, gambling, drinking, laughing. The casinos were not completely full on the evening of 9/11/01, but they seemed to be at least half full, a fact that was verified by some employees to whom I spoke.  What kind of person goes to a casino to have fun on the evening of 9/11/01, I wondered.</p>
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