Comments on: McKibben Christmas http://dangerousintersection.org/2007/12/04/mckibben-christmas/ Human Animals at the Crossroads of Culture, Science, Religion and Media Wed, 07 Jan 2009 22:08:19 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.5 By: Phil http://dangerousintersection.org/2007/12/04/mckibben-christmas/#comment-15190 Phil Thu, 06 Dec 2007 03:18:06 +0000 http://dangerousintersection.org/?p=1867#comment-15190 Cool--thanks for the tech tip! I may have another Henry Adams post later this evening. Cool–thanks for the tech tip! I may have another Henry Adams post later this evening.

]]> By: Erich Vieth http://dangerousintersection.org/2007/12/04/mckibben-christmas/#comment-15187 Erich Vieth Wed, 05 Dec 2007 23:55:02 +0000 http://dangerousintersection.org/?p=1867#comment-15187 McKibben is right-on about "stuff": <blockquote>Stuff itself is a problem less because of its environmental toll (though that is quite high) than because it's increasingly meaningless. Think of your friends. Are many of them lacking in stuff? Or is the first question that forms in their minds when a new gift arrives from under the tree: "Where am I going to put this?" . . . Our environmental problem is that we consume way too much because we've agreed to try and meet basic human needs -- status, respect, affection -- with material ends.</blockquote> Lots of good comments, too. I found a working version of the article at http://www.alternet.org/environment/69068/ . It actually started out as that long one-word column you mentioned, then I clicked a link, then I clicked "go back" and it was a normal looking article. McKibben is right-on about “stuff”:

Stuff itself is a problem less because of its environmental toll (though that is quite high) than because it’s increasingly meaningless. Think of your friends. Are many of them lacking in stuff? Or is the first question that forms in their minds when a new gift arrives from under the tree: “Where am I going to put this?” . . .

Our environmental problem is that we consume way too much because we’ve agreed to try and meet basic human needs — status, respect, affection — with material ends.

Lots of good comments, too. I found a working version of the article at http://www.alternet.org/environment/69068/ . It actually started out as that long one-word column you mentioned, then I clicked a link, then I clicked “go back” and it was a normal looking article.

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