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	<title>Comments on: Manger Arbitration</title>
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		<title>By: Christmas Brings Out The&#8230; &#124; Dangerous Intersection</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2007/11/29/manger-arbitration/#comment-30388</link>
		<dc:creator>Christmas Brings Out The&#8230; &#124; Dangerous Intersection</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on.  Do people really buy that?  I mean, the whole Christmas decoration thing is irritating and I can understand people not wanting their holiday messed up with politics, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] on.  Do people really buy that?  I mean, the whole Christmas decoration thing is irritating and I can understand people not wanting their holiday messed up with politics, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Tiedemann</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2007/11/29/manger-arbitration/#comment-15387</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Tiedemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 12:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Got news for you, pastor---the world always determines what something is, in any era, to suit its own purposes.  Recognition just takes a little longer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got news for you, pastor&#8212;the world always determines what something is, in any era, to suit its own purposes.  Recognition just takes a little longer.</p>
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		<title>By: pastor Michael Turner</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2007/11/29/manger-arbitration/#comment-15376</link>
		<dc:creator>pastor Michael Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 15:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The world does not want to realize what Christmas is all about because then they have to be held accoutnable for all there intoxication, orgies, and roudiness (as one ommentor thought christmas should be.  Yes jesus was not actually born in december but He is the reason we celebrate.  It is the non-christians not the christians who have distorted things.  St. Nicholas (the background for Santa claus) gave kidas gifts because of what Christ had given him (forgiveness of his sins and eternal life in heaven not letting him die and go to hell).  The world has turned it into what it is today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The world does not want to realize what Christmas is all about because then they have to be held accoutnable for all there intoxication, orgies, and roudiness (as one ommentor thought christmas should be.  Yes jesus was not actually born in december but He is the reason we celebrate.  It is the non-christians not the christians who have distorted things.  St. Nicholas (the background for Santa claus) gave kidas gifts because of what Christ had given him (forgiveness of his sins and eternal life in heaven not letting him die and go to hell).  The world has turned it into what it is today.</p>
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		<title>By: Erich Vieth</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2007/11/29/manger-arbitration/#comment-15337</link>
		<dc:creator>Erich Vieth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 01:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here's more evidence that, for many, Christmas has become a secular holiday: In Great Britain, Christmas cards rarely have religious themes.  http://dangerousintersection.org/?p=835</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s more evidence that, for many, Christmas has become a secular holiday: In Great Britain, Christmas cards rarely have religious themes.  <a href="http://dangerousintersection.org/?p=835" rel="nofollow">http://dangerousintersection.org/?p=835</a></p>
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		<title>By: Erich Vieth</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2007/11/29/manger-arbitration/#comment-15298</link>
		<dc:creator>Erich Vieth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 03:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here's my arrangement to "I heard the Bells" (see above comment).  &lt;a href="http://dangerousintersection.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/I%20heard%20the%20bells%20-%20chords.pdf"&gt;http://dangerousintersection.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/I%20heard%20the%20bells%20-%20chords.pdf&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s my arrangement to &#8220;I heard the Bells&#8221; (see above comment).  <a href="http://dangerousintersection.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/I%20heard%20the%20bells%20-%20chords.pdf">http://dangerousintersection.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/12/I%20heard%20the%20bells%20-%20chords.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Erich Vieth</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2007/11/29/manger-arbitration/#comment-15231</link>
		<dc:creator>Erich Vieth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Dec 2007 06:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark:  your post bore fruit for me tonight.   I was strolling through Macy's tonight, feeling a bit "territorial" about what others are doing to Christmas.   Then I recalled your post, which made it easier to live and let live.   Christmas is a big tent--er, manger.

H.L.A. Hart wrote about the concept of a "park," demonstrating that it too is a big tent.   We all agree that we want parks and that parks are important.  Once we get a park, though, we have massive disagreements about how to use them.  Some people want to have quiet picnics, while others want to have noisy amplified concerts.  Some people want to enjoy the trees, while others want to cut down the trees and carve out baseball diamonds.   Some people want unkempt nature while others want carefully maintained Victorian walking parks.   All of this held loosely together by the term "park."   Mark Johnson and George Lakoff use these example of a "park" as evidence to prove prototype theories.  Or at least, it doesn't seem that we can come up with necessary and sufficient conditions for setting forth the proper usage of the term "park."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark:  your post bore fruit for me tonight.   I was strolling through Macy&#8217;s tonight, feeling a bit &#8220;territorial&#8221; about what others are doing to Christmas.   Then I recalled your post, which made it easier to live and let live.   Christmas is a big tent&#8211;er, manger.</p>
<p>H.L.A. Hart wrote about the concept of a &#8220;park,&#8221; demonstrating that it too is a big tent.   We all agree that we want parks and that parks are important.  Once we get a park, though, we have massive disagreements about how to use them.  Some people want to have quiet picnics, while others want to have noisy amplified concerts.  Some people want to enjoy the trees, while others want to cut down the trees and carve out baseball diamonds.   Some people want unkempt nature while others want carefully maintained Victorian walking parks.   All of this held loosely together by the term &#8220;park.&#8221;   Mark Johnson and George Lakoff use these example of a &#8220;park&#8221; as evidence to prove prototype theories.  Or at least, it doesn&#8217;t seem that we can come up with necessary and sufficient conditions for setting forth the proper usage of the term &#8220;park.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Erich Vieth</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2007/11/29/manger-arbitration/#comment-15170</link>
		<dc:creator>Erich Vieth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 19:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For an arguably related post--concerning non-believers who enjoy going to church--see here:  http://dangerousintersection.org/?p=663</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For an arguably related post&#8211;concerning non-believers who enjoy going to church&#8211;see here:  <a href="http://dangerousintersection.org/?p=663" rel="nofollow">http://dangerousintersection.org/?p=663</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dan Klarmann</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2007/11/29/manger-arbitration/#comment-15144</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Klarmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 20:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Linus and Lucy theme: &lt;a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.redshift.com/~mjhofer/dls-midi/lucylins.mid"&gt;(midi file)&lt;/a&gt;
Always a favorite. But my family always sang along with Tom Lehrer's &lt;a rel="nofollow" href="http://members.aol.com/quentncree/lehrer/xmas.htm"&gt;A Christmas Carol&lt;/a&gt; after  listening to an album of German carols like "Kling Glöckchen" and "Stille Nacht".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Linus and Lucy theme: <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.redshift.com/~mjhofer/dls-midi/lucylins.mid">(midi file)</a><br />
Always a favorite. But my family always sang along with Tom Lehrer&#8217;s <a rel="nofollow" href="http://members.aol.com/quentncree/lehrer/xmas.htm">A Christmas Carol</a> after  listening to an album of German carols like &#8220;Kling Glöckchen&#8221; and &#8220;Stille Nacht&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2007/11/29/manger-arbitration/#comment-15142</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 18:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Little Drummer Boy...
Pa- rum pum pum- pummm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Little Drummer Boy&#8230;<br />
Pa- rum pum pum- pummm</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Pulcinella</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2007/11/29/manger-arbitration/#comment-15138</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Pulcinella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can't let a Christmas season pass without listening to Vince Guaraldi's score to A Charlie Brown Christmas at least once. I suggest that if any of you like that music, please seek out other Vince Guaraldi recordings. He was a great jazz pianist and much more than just a composer of cartoon scores.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t let a Christmas season pass without listening to Vince Guaraldi&#8217;s score to A Charlie Brown Christmas at least once. I suggest that if any of you like that music, please seek out other Vince Guaraldi recordings. He was a great jazz pianist and much more than just a composer of cartoon scores.</p>
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