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		<title>By: Erich Vieth</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2007/11/28/the-invisible-hand-needs-a-hand/#comment-27288</link>
		<dc:creator>Erich Vieth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some are now suggesting the end of capitalism:

[T]he hands-off brand of capitalism in the United States is now being blamed for the easy credit that sickened the housing market and allowed a freewheeling Wall Street to create a pool of toxic investments that has infected the global financial system. Heavy intervention by the government, critics say, is further robbing Washington of the moral authority to spread the gospel of laissez-faire capitalism.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27112481/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some are now suggesting the end of capitalism:</p>
<p>[T]he hands-off brand of capitalism in the United States is now being blamed for the easy credit that sickened the housing market and allowed a freewheeling Wall Street to create a pool of toxic investments that has infected the global financial system. Heavy intervention by the government, critics say, is further robbing Washington of the moral authority to spread the gospel of laissez-faire capitalism.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27112481/" rel="nofollow">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27112481/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Erich Vieth</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2007/11/28/the-invisible-hand-needs-a-hand/#comment-22646</link>
		<dc:creator>Erich Vieth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 05:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here's a story about how the "free market" works when it comes to coal-burning electrical plants;



&lt;blockquote&gt;Steve Susman, the Houston lawyer who donated his time to the cause, also alluded at the screening to deregulation's shortcomings. 

"The free market system simply does not work in this area," he said.

Of course, we don't really know. Deregulation hasn't given us a free market, it's given us a market mash-up that's both free and fixed.

Our legislators were quick to buy Ken Lay's deregulation sales pitch, but promises that it would lower our electric bills proved as accurate as an Enron balance sheet.&lt;/blockquote&gt;



http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/business/steffy/5676803.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a story about how the &#8220;free market&#8221; works when it comes to coal-burning electrical plants;</p>
<blockquote><p>Steve Susman, the Houston lawyer who donated his time to the cause, also alluded at the screening to deregulation&#8217;s shortcomings. </p>
<p>&#8220;The free market system simply does not work in this area,&#8221; he said.</p>
<p>Of course, we don&#8217;t really know. Deregulation hasn&#8217;t given us a free market, it&#8217;s given us a market mash-up that&#8217;s both free and fixed.</p>
<p>Our legislators were quick to buy Ken Lay&#8217;s deregulation sales pitch, but promises that it would lower our electric bills proved as accurate as an Enron balance sheet.</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/business/steffy/5676803.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/business/steffy/5676803.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Niklaus Pfirsig</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2007/11/28/the-invisible-hand-needs-a-hand/#comment-17638</link>
		<dc:creator>Niklaus Pfirsig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I had a mil (1 tenth of a cent) for everyone that honestly believes that a free market economy means unregulated capitalism, I would be a very wealty man.
 A free market is a theoretical economy drivent entirely by consumer demand. It is the total antithesis of what most people think of as capitalism. 
 Small pockets of free market economy exist for short periods around the country. The best example is the farmers's market. The farmers are selling the same things, and the price is a direct function of consumer demand. If the customers on't like the quality or price from one vendor, they just move on to the next until they find what they want for a price they are willing to pay. 
 The second any vendor runs out of an item, however, the free market ceases to be because the consumerslose a choice. If one vendor out of twenty fails to offer all items, it becomes a near free market. If only one vendor offers an item, it is a monopoly.
 Pure unfettered capitalism favors monopolies and cartels, which result in low quality and high prices for the consumers. Monopolies and cartels manipulate the supply to maximize profit, and by doing so harmsthe consumer.
 This is why one of the most important functions of government is to regulate the suppliers and level the playing field between the well established suppliers and the new ones entering the market. However since the introduction of the voodoo theory of "Trickle down economics", we have seen an ever increaseing percentage of the nations wealth becoming concentrated in a greadually shrinkg percentage of the population. 
 It could be argued that we are seeing a repetition of history going on. A major cause of the great depression  was the lack of regulation of the financial institutiions, but the extreme disparities in income is often overlooked as an important factor by mainstream historians. The economy had grown top-heavy with managment and middlemen, and when disaster hit the source of production, and the poorest of the poor could no longer pay for their needs, it all came crashing down.
  It was the poorest of the poor who were least affected by the great depression, as they had already adapted to a lifestyle with little or no money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I had a mil (1 tenth of a cent) for everyone that honestly believes that a free market economy means unregulated capitalism, I would be a very wealty man.<br />
 A free market is a theoretical economy drivent entirely by consumer demand. It is the total antithesis of what most people think of as capitalism.<br />
 Small pockets of free market economy exist for short periods around the country. The best example is the farmers&#8217;s market. The farmers are selling the same things, and the price is a direct function of consumer demand. If the customers on&#8217;t like the quality or price from one vendor, they just move on to the next until they find what they want for a price they are willing to pay.<br />
 The second any vendor runs out of an item, however, the free market ceases to be because the consumerslose a choice. If one vendor out of twenty fails to offer all items, it becomes a near free market. If only one vendor offers an item, it is a monopoly.<br />
 Pure unfettered capitalism favors monopolies and cartels, which result in low quality and high prices for the consumers. Monopolies and cartels manipulate the supply to maximize profit, and by doing so harmsthe consumer.<br />
 This is why one of the most important functions of government is to regulate the suppliers and level the playing field between the well established suppliers and the new ones entering the market. However since the introduction of the voodoo theory of &#8220;Trickle down economics&#8221;, we have seen an ever increaseing percentage of the nations wealth becoming concentrated in a greadually shrinkg percentage of the population.<br />
 It could be argued that we are seeing a repetition of history going on. A major cause of the great depression  was the lack of regulation of the financial institutiions, but the extreme disparities in income is often overlooked as an important factor by mainstream historians. The economy had grown top-heavy with managment and middlemen, and when disaster hit the source of production, and the poorest of the poor could no longer pay for their needs, it all came crashing down.<br />
  It was the poorest of the poor who were least affected by the great depression, as they had already adapted to a lifestyle with little or no money.</p>
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		<title>By: Erich Vieth</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2007/11/28/the-invisible-hand-needs-a-hand/#comment-16903</link>
		<dc:creator>Erich Vieth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 05:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From Marty Kaplan at Huffpo:

[T]he second 9/11 -- the slow-motion collapse of the American, and maybe the global, economy -- has been caused by a catastrophic failure of intelligence about Wall Street rapacity. If the now five-year-old Iraq war was the inevitable, tragic consequence of the neoconservatives' Project for the New American Century, then the subprime mortgage quagmire, the Bear Stearns bailout, and the foreclosure fiasco are the foreordained outcome of the Republican ideology which holds that regulation of corporate financial behavior is the domestic equivalent of Islamofascism.

The economic meltdown is the new 9/11, and it's George W. Bush's fault -- his, and the fundamentalist free-marketeers who have been living high on the hog, feeding at the public trough, intimidating Democrats, and getting away with capitalist murder ever since Ronald Reagan made "government" a dirty word. 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marty-kaplan/my-goat-ate-the-economy_b_91759.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From Marty Kaplan at Huffpo:</p>
<p>[T]he second 9/11 &#8212; the slow-motion collapse of the American, and maybe the global, economy &#8212; has been caused by a catastrophic failure of intelligence about Wall Street rapacity. If the now five-year-old Iraq war was the inevitable, tragic consequence of the neoconservatives&#8217; Project for the New American Century, then the subprime mortgage quagmire, the Bear Stearns bailout, and the foreclosure fiasco are the foreordained outcome of the Republican ideology which holds that regulation of corporate financial behavior is the domestic equivalent of Islamofascism.</p>
<p>The economic meltdown is the new 9/11, and it&#8217;s George W. Bush&#8217;s fault &#8212; his, and the fundamentalist free-marketeers who have been living high on the hog, feeding at the public trough, intimidating Democrats, and getting away with capitalist murder ever since Ronald Reagan made &#8220;government&#8221; a dirty word. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marty-kaplan/my-goat-ate-the-economy_b_91759.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marty-kaplan/my-goat-ate-the-economy_b_91759.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Erich Vieth</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2007/11/28/the-invisible-hand-needs-a-hand/#comment-15773</link>
		<dc:creator>Erich Vieth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 06:59:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Both parties are convinced that government is exceptionally skilled at doing things they want more of, and entirely incompetent when it comes to things they don't like.  http://www.tonywoodlief.com/archives/001312.html#001312</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both parties are convinced that government is exceptionally skilled at doing things they want more of, and entirely incompetent when it comes to things they don&#8217;t like.  <a href="http://www.tonywoodlief.com/archives/001312.html#001312" rel="nofollow">http://www.tonywoodlief.com/archives/001312.html#001312</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mark Tiedemann</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2007/11/28/the-invisible-hand-needs-a-hand/#comment-15302</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Tiedemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grumpy said:

---True, many products don’t make it to market for safety reasons, but this is true for all competitors. Seen from the vantage point of the consumer, forcing ‘bad’ products off the market creates opportunities for innovators who can build a ‘good’ product to satisfy the need, thereby benefitting the consumer in the long run.---

Oh, I agree entirely.  But as far as the producers are concerned, they are already in competition with each other, and the additional "burden" of meeting government regulation is viewed as an unwelcome impediment in that competition.

Another way to look at it, from the commercial viewpoint, consumers exist solely to benefit the producer.  From the consumer viewpoint, producers exist only to benefit the consumer.  The reality is that neither group could function without the other and both are producers AND consumers.  But the ideological distinction (aritificial to be sure) is akin to the rejection by certain people that each individual has both a masculine and a feminine aspect.  It only makes sense, but we've all talked to people, I'm sure, who simply won't accept that.  (Okay, so it's a stretch, but it's the only simile I could think of this early :) )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grumpy said:</p>
<p>&#8212;True, many products don’t make it to market for safety reasons, but this is true for all competitors. Seen from the vantage point of the consumer, forcing ‘bad’ products off the market creates opportunities for innovators who can build a ‘good’ product to satisfy the need, thereby benefitting the consumer in the long run.&#8212;</p>
<p>Oh, I agree entirely.  But as far as the producers are concerned, they are already in competition with each other, and the additional &#8220;burden&#8221; of meeting government regulation is viewed as an unwelcome impediment in that competition.</p>
<p>Another way to look at it, from the commercial viewpoint, consumers exist solely to benefit the producer.  From the consumer viewpoint, producers exist only to benefit the consumer.  The reality is that neither group could function without the other and both are producers AND consumers.  But the ideological distinction (aritificial to be sure) is akin to the rejection by certain people that each individual has both a masculine and a feminine aspect.  It only makes sense, but we&#8217;ve all talked to people, I&#8217;m sure, who simply won&#8217;t accept that.  (Okay, so it&#8217;s a stretch, but it&#8217;s the only simile I could think of this early <img src='http://dangerousintersection.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
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		<title>By: Erich Vieth</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2007/11/28/the-invisible-hand-needs-a-hand/#comment-15299</link>
		<dc:creator>Erich Vieth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 05:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've decided that I need to learn more about the American libertarian movement. There are quite a few sincere and articulate people out there who swear that our societal problems would simply dissolve away if we intentionally weaken government. As I understand that assertion, I reject it, for the reasons I've stated above. In short, power can be asserted in many ways, only some of those through government. And I do find it ironic that so many libertarians act as though the court system will be pure and above it all once they cripple the legislative and executive branches.

Here's a Wikipedia excerpt on Libertarianism:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Many libertarians view life, liberty, and property as the ultimate rights possessed by individuals, and that compromising one necessarily endangers the rest. In democracies, they consider compromise of these individual rights by political action to be tyranny of the majority, a term first coined by Alexis de Tocqueville, and made famous by John Stuart Mill, which emphasizes the threat of the majority to impose majority norms on minorities, and violating their rights in the process. "...There needs protection also against the tyranny of the prevailing opinion and feeling, against the tendency of society to impose, by other means than civil penalties, its own ideas and practices as rules of conduct on those who dissent from them..."[14]

Having weak state executive control means libertarian societies are more dependent on the courts for conflict resolution. An impartial judiciary can thus be of paramount importance, for without it wealthy and collective interests might run roughshod over the private citizen.

An example often cited by Republican Texas congressman Ron Paul[citation needed] is the disrespect for property rights during and soon after the industrial revolution. Many factories were allowed to pollute their neighbors' property with impunity as the courts cast a deaf ear to the cries of individual property owners.[citation needed]

Some libertarians favor Common Law, which they see as less arbitrary and more adaptable than statutory law. The relative benefits of common law evolving toward ever-finer definitions of property rights were articulated by thinkers such as Friedrich Hayek, Richard Epstein, Robert Nozick, and Randy Barnett. Some libertarian thinkers believe that this evolution can define away various "commons" such as pollution or other interactions viewed by some as externalities. "A libertarian society would not allow anyone to injure others by pollution because it insists on individual responsibility."&lt;/blockquote&gt;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism

--

I do want to make sure that I'm not missing something big here. Therefore, I've subscribed to receive one year of a magazine: &lt;em&gt;Reason: Free Minds and Free Markets.&lt;/em&gt; I received my first issue today. Here's the focus of &lt;em&gt;Reason&lt;/em&gt; (&lt;a href="http://www.reason.org/aboutreason.shtml" target="_blank"&gt;from the &lt;em&gt;Reason&lt;/em&gt; website&lt;/a&gt;):
&lt;blockquote&gt;Founded in 1968, Reason advances a free society by developing, applying, and promoting libertarian principles, including individual liberty, free markets, and the rule of law.

Reason produces respected public policy research on a variety of issues and publishes the critically acclaimed monthly magazine, Reason. Together, our top-tier think tank and political and cultural magazine reach a diverse, influential audience, advancing the values of individual freedom and choice, limited government, and market-friendly policies.

Reason Foundation's nonpartisan public policy research promotes choice, competition, and a dynamic market economy as the foundation for human dignity and progress. Reason produces rigorous, peer reviewed research and directly engages the policy process, seeking strategies that emphasize cooperation, flexibility, local knowledge, and results. Through practical and innovative approaches to complex problems, Reason seeks to change the way people think about issues, and promote policies that allow and encourage individuals and voluntary institutions to flourish.

Reason is the monthly print magazine of "free minds and free markets."&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I'll report on the progress of my Libertarian education periodically.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve decided that I need to learn more about the American libertarian movement. There are quite a few sincere and articulate people out there who swear that our societal problems would simply dissolve away if we intentionally weaken government. As I understand that assertion, I reject it, for the reasons I&#8217;ve stated above. In short, power can be asserted in many ways, only some of those through government. And I do find it ironic that so many libertarians act as though the court system will be pure and above it all once they cripple the legislative and executive branches.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a Wikipedia excerpt on Libertarianism:</p>
<blockquote><p>Many libertarians view life, liberty, and property as the ultimate rights possessed by individuals, and that compromising one necessarily endangers the rest. In democracies, they consider compromise of these individual rights by political action to be tyranny of the majority, a term first coined by Alexis de Tocqueville, and made famous by John Stuart Mill, which emphasizes the threat of the majority to impose majority norms on minorities, and violating their rights in the process. &#8220;&#8230;There needs protection also against the tyranny of the prevailing opinion and feeling, against the tendency of society to impose, by other means than civil penalties, its own ideas and practices as rules of conduct on those who dissent from them&#8230;&#8221;[14]</p>
<p>Having weak state executive control means libertarian societies are more dependent on the courts for conflict resolution. An impartial judiciary can thus be of paramount importance, for without it wealthy and collective interests might run roughshod over the private citizen.</p>
<p>An example often cited by Republican Texas congressman Ron Paul[citation needed] is the disrespect for property rights during and soon after the industrial revolution. Many factories were allowed to pollute their neighbors&#8217; property with impunity as the courts cast a deaf ear to the cries of individual property owners.[citation needed]</p>
<p>Some libertarians favor Common Law, which they see as less arbitrary and more adaptable than statutory law. The relative benefits of common law evolving toward ever-finer definitions of property rights were articulated by thinkers such as Friedrich Hayek, Richard Epstein, Robert Nozick, and Randy Barnett. Some libertarian thinkers believe that this evolution can define away various &#8220;commons&#8221; such as pollution or other interactions viewed by some as externalities. &#8220;A libertarian society would not allow anyone to injure others by pollution because it insists on individual responsibility.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism</a></p>
<p>&#8211;</p>
<p>I do want to make sure that I&#8217;m not missing something big here. Therefore, I&#8217;ve subscribed to receive one year of a magazine: <em>Reason: Free Minds and Free Markets.</em> I received my first issue today. Here&#8217;s the focus of <em>Reason</em> (<a href="http://www.reason.org/aboutreason.shtml" target="_blank">from the <em>Reason</em> website</a>):</p>
<blockquote><p>Founded in 1968, Reason advances a free society by developing, applying, and promoting libertarian principles, including individual liberty, free markets, and the rule of law.</p>
<p>Reason produces respected public policy research on a variety of issues and publishes the critically acclaimed monthly magazine, Reason. Together, our top-tier think tank and political and cultural magazine reach a diverse, influential audience, advancing the values of individual freedom and choice, limited government, and market-friendly policies.</p>
<p>Reason Foundation&#8217;s nonpartisan public policy research promotes choice, competition, and a dynamic market economy as the foundation for human dignity and progress. Reason produces rigorous, peer reviewed research and directly engages the policy process, seeking strategies that emphasize cooperation, flexibility, local knowledge, and results. Through practical and innovative approaches to complex problems, Reason seeks to change the way people think about issues, and promote policies that allow and encourage individuals and voluntary institutions to flourish.</p>
<p>Reason is the monthly print magazine of &#8220;free minds and free markets.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ll report on the progress of my Libertarian education periodically.</p>
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		<title>By: grumpypilgrim</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2007/11/28/the-invisible-hand-needs-a-hand/#comment-15297</link>
		<dc:creator>grumpypilgrim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 00:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark T. -- thanks for following up.  As regards gov't regulation, the regs generally (at least ideally) impact all competitors equally -- that's often the reason why regulation is needed:  because no individual competitor would take the necessary steps unless others do likewise.  Environmental regs come to mind -- the first company to spend on upgrades faces higher costs, causing the whole industry to delay until the gov't steps in to demand it of everyone.

As regards safety, the PTO is not staffed with experts on that subject; thus, is unequipped to address it.  Likewise for other agencies not tasked with addressing it.  Likewise, assigning multiple agencies to address the same issue unnecessarily multiplies the cost of compliance, making U.S. companies at a disadvantage relative to non-U.S. competitors.

True, many products don't make it to market for safety reasons, but this is true for all competitors.  Seen from the vantage point of the consumer, forcing 'bad' products off the market creates opportunities for innovators who can build a 'good' product to satisfy the need, thereby benefitting the consumer in the long run.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark T. &#8212; thanks for following up.  As regards gov&#8217;t regulation, the regs generally (at least ideally) impact all competitors equally &#8212; that&#8217;s often the reason why regulation is needed:  because no individual competitor would take the necessary steps unless others do likewise.  Environmental regs come to mind &#8212; the first company to spend on upgrades faces higher costs, causing the whole industry to delay until the gov&#8217;t steps in to demand it of everyone.</p>
<p>As regards safety, the PTO is not staffed with experts on that subject; thus, is unequipped to address it.  Likewise for other agencies not tasked with addressing it.  Likewise, assigning multiple agencies to address the same issue unnecessarily multiplies the cost of compliance, making U.S. companies at a disadvantage relative to non-U.S. competitors.</p>
<p>True, many products don&#8217;t make it to market for safety reasons, but this is true for all competitors.  Seen from the vantage point of the consumer, forcing &#8216;bad&#8217; products off the market creates opportunities for innovators who can build a &#8216;good&#8217; product to satisfy the need, thereby benefitting the consumer in the long run.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Tiedemann</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2007/11/28/the-invisible-hand-needs-a-hand/#comment-15277</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Tiedemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more point, Grumpy,

My comment on patent application had nothing to do with the patent office process---but if regulation meant a delay in the development of a new product by one factor which allowed a competitor to get there first, then regulation would be seen as Bad.  I was talking about a situation in which the patent office would not even see the product due to other regulatory requirements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more point, Grumpy,</p>
<p>My comment on patent application had nothing to do with the patent office process&#8212;but if regulation meant a delay in the development of a new product by one factor which allowed a competitor to get there first, then regulation would be seen as Bad.  I was talking about a situation in which the patent office would not even see the product due to other regulatory requirements.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Tiedemann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Tiedemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2007 12:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grumpy,

The question Erich posed was why regulation is opposed.  My response has to do with perception, not reality.  Regulation that might actually work to keep bad products off the market are presented by corporations as wrenches in the gears.  The reality, as you point out, rarely jibes with the perception, but there you have it.  They are working against the possibility of regulation that would somehow prevent profit making.  It is the mindset of those who feel that any hoop put in their path to jump through is a life or death threat to the "natural" processes of the market.

I did not mean to suggest that it has ever been the patent office's job to determine safety.  But what if it was?  We have agencies to determine the suitability of food, of television and radio content, and after-the-fact agencies that trigger Recalls.  Not much of a step from that to before-the-fact regulation.

It's a species of paranoia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grumpy,</p>
<p>The question Erich posed was why regulation is opposed.  My response has to do with perception, not reality.  Regulation that might actually work to keep bad products off the market are presented by corporations as wrenches in the gears.  The reality, as you point out, rarely jibes with the perception, but there you have it.  They are working against the possibility of regulation that would somehow prevent profit making.  It is the mindset of those who feel that any hoop put in their path to jump through is a life or death threat to the &#8220;natural&#8221; processes of the market.</p>
<p>I did not mean to suggest that it has ever been the patent office&#8217;s job to determine safety.  But what if it was?  We have agencies to determine the suitability of food, of television and radio content, and after-the-fact agencies that trigger Recalls.  Not much of a step from that to before-the-fact regulation.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a species of paranoia.</p>
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