Comments on: How does fighting them over there save us from fighting them over here? http://dangerousintersection.org/2007/05/29/how-does-fighting-them-over-there-save-us-from-fighting-them-over-here/ Human Animals at the Crossroads of Culture, Science, Religion and Media Wed, 17 Mar 2010 00:31:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: ThinkingMeat · Good question http://dangerousintersection.org/2007/05/29/how-does-fighting-them-over-there-save-us-from-fighting-them-over-here/comment-page-1/#comment-16412 ThinkingMeat · Good question Wed, 27 Feb 2008 16:28:28 +0000 http://dangerousintersection.org/?p=1342#comment-16412 [...] I came across this article sometime last year and only rediscovered it recently. It’s a good question: How does fighting them over there save us from fighting them over here? [...] [...] I came across this article sometime last year and only rediscovered it recently. It’s a good question: How does fighting them over there save us from fighting them over here? [...]

]]> By: Timothy http://dangerousintersection.org/2007/05/29/how-does-fighting-them-over-there-save-us-from-fighting-them-over-here/comment-page-1/#comment-14730 Timothy Thu, 18 Oct 2007 19:11:02 +0000 http://dangerousintersection.org/?p=1342#comment-14730 Ok, Ill get my two cents in here too i guess. :) We fight there because that is where they come from. Please tell me how we are supposed to stop them here when we have no idea what they will do next. We fought the Nazis where the came from. We eradicated them from Europe and then Germany. To kill a snake you can cut the tail off but it can still kill you. If you destroy the brain then it's worthless. Terrorism comes from extremists of all religious but Islamic terrorism comes from Islamic nations. We have to start in Iraq and Afghanistan and go from there. If we can somehow rid the world of Islamic extremists. We will have no Islamic terrorists right. Now, all that said, I do not believe we will win this on our own. I do believe in The Bible. It has never been wrong. We will probably fail in the long run but God will save us believers. I don't know how much I support this war anymore but the President had the right intentions. He never lied to us as some say. We should support our efforts because there is a slim chance we can win. A slim chance is beter than no chance and I dont want our women being forced to wear sheets on their heads, loosing theyr vote, and basicaly all the respect they have worked so hard for for thousands of years. If we fail in Iraqe and elswhere we will have to live with that. That's why we are there. That's why we should all support the war. Ok, Ill get my two cents in here too i guess. :) We fight there because that is where they come from. Please tell me how we are supposed to stop them here when we have no idea what they will do next. We fought the Nazis where the came from. We eradicated them from Europe and then Germany. To kill a snake you can cut the tail off but it can still kill you. If you destroy the brain then it’s worthless. Terrorism comes from extremists of all religious but Islamic terrorism comes from Islamic nations. We have to start in Iraq and Afghanistan and go from there. If we can somehow rid the world of Islamic extremists. We will have no Islamic terrorists right. Now, all that said, I do not believe we will win this on our own. I do believe in The Bible. It has never been wrong. We will probably fail in the long run but God will save us believers. I don’t know how much I support this war anymore but the President had the right intentions. He never lied to us as some say. We should support our efforts because there is a slim chance we can win. A slim chance is beter than no chance and I dont want our women being forced to wear sheets on their heads, loosing theyr vote, and basicaly all the respect they have worked so hard for for thousands of years. If we fail in Iraqe and elswhere we will have to live with that. That’s why we are there. That’s why we should all support the war.

]]> By: Erika Price http://dangerousintersection.org/2007/05/29/how-does-fighting-them-over-there-save-us-from-fighting-them-over-here/comment-page-1/#comment-12725 Erika Price Thu, 31 May 2007 15:17:01 +0000 http://dangerousintersection.org/?p=1342#comment-12725 Maybe it comes from that fallacious notion that we have some kind of cohesive enemy to fight? We know, of course, that this concept of a whole body of terrorists that operate together as a whole (like a nation) doesn't make any sense. Just because terrorist organizations and terrorist leaders exist doesn't mean that we can "wage war" with the terrorists the way we would a conventional army. Perhaps people haven't adapted to this paradigm shift yet, so it seems logical that killing all the terrorists over there will obliterate them and prevent them from organizing any attacks here. Unlike a soldier, who probably won't keep fighting on his own without a government or orders, a terrorist can keep inciting fear and creating violence on his own. It doesn't take a military budget to make an improvised explosive device. Maybe it comes from that fallacious notion that we have some kind of cohesive enemy to fight? We know, of course, that this concept of a whole body of terrorists that operate together as a whole (like a nation) doesn’t make any sense. Just because terrorist organizations and terrorist leaders exist doesn’t mean that we can “wage war” with the terrorists the way we would a conventional army. Perhaps people haven’t adapted to this paradigm shift yet, so it seems logical that killing all the terrorists over there will obliterate them and prevent them from organizing any attacks here. Unlike a soldier, who probably won’t keep fighting on his own without a government or orders, a terrorist can keep inciting fear and creating violence on his own. It doesn’t take a military budget to make an improvised explosive device.

]]> By: shawn http://dangerousintersection.org/2007/05/29/how-does-fighting-them-over-there-save-us-from-fighting-them-over-here/comment-page-1/#comment-12711 shawn Thu, 31 May 2007 01:04:55 +0000 http://dangerousintersection.org/?p=1342#comment-12711 the thought behind the strategy is to pick the site of the battle, of course I'm assuming the neocons have read the Art of War the thought behind the strategy is to pick the site of the battle, of course I’m assuming the neocons have read the Art of War

]]> By: Erich Vieth http://dangerousintersection.org/2007/05/29/how-does-fighting-them-over-there-save-us-from-fighting-them-over-here/comment-page-1/#comment-12696 Erich Vieth Wed, 30 May 2007 04:40:07 +0000 http://dangerousintersection.org/?p=1342#comment-12696 Good point that there are other ways to get to the U.S. than by traveling through Iraq. Imagine people living in Australia, Canada, Poland, and Japan all wanting to travel to the U.S. to take a vacation. Imagine, then, that the travel agency directs them all to take flights to Iraq in order to get to the U.S., explaining that you have to vacation over there in Iraq in order to (eventually) vacation in the U.S. Then imagine the stunned reaction of the vacationers at such stupidity. Good point that there are other ways to get to the U.S. than by traveling through Iraq. Imagine people living in Australia, Canada, Poland, and Japan all wanting to travel to the U.S. to take a vacation. Imagine, then, that the travel agency directs them all to take flights to Iraq in order to get to the U.S., explaining that you have to vacation over there in Iraq in order to (eventually) vacation in the U.S. Then imagine the stunned reaction of the vacationers at such stupidity.

]]> By: Ben http://dangerousintersection.org/2007/05/29/how-does-fighting-them-over-there-save-us-from-fighting-them-over-here/comment-page-1/#comment-12688 Ben Wed, 30 May 2007 03:17:54 +0000 http://dangerousintersection.org/?p=1342#comment-12688 I guess the rationale could be that the "terrorists" will be more worried about defending their families back home. Therefore they will not have time or energy to send attacks our way. Kind of ridiculous propaganda, because this would (in itself) be justifying that anybody we attack (Iraq, in this case) are actually the terrorists we so greatly fear. Maybe the ambiguity is in the wording of attacking a location (middle east) or country, where in reality, the situation is more complex. Reminds me of Cheney who pointed out that and "Iraq really doesn't look all that chaotic when you are flying over in a plane". I guess the rationale could be that the “terrorists” will be more worried about defending their families back home. Therefore they will not have time or energy to send attacks our way. Kind of ridiculous propaganda, because this would (in itself) be justifying that anybody we attack (Iraq, in this case) are actually the terrorists we so greatly fear.

Maybe the ambiguity is in the wording of attacking a location (middle east) or country, where in reality, the situation is more complex. Reminds me of Cheney who pointed out that and “Iraq really doesn’t look all that chaotic when you are flying over in a plane”.

]]> By: Dan Klarmann http://dangerousintersection.org/2007/05/29/how-does-fighting-them-over-there-save-us-from-fighting-them-over-here/comment-page-1/#comment-12681 Dan Klarmann Tue, 29 May 2007 19:04:22 +0000 http://dangerousintersection.org/?p=1342#comment-12681 Q: If we tell the Iraqis that we will leave if there are no bombings in Iraq for 6 months, will the insurgents do their part to get rid of us? Q: If we tell the Iraqis that we will leave if there are no bombings in Iraq for 6 months, will the insurgents do their part to get rid of us?

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