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		<title>By: Dan Klarmann</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2007/05/22/creation-in-covington/#comment-19289</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Klarmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here's a wicked account of the Grand Opening of the Creationism Museum:
&lt;a href="http://buffalobeast.com/117/let_there_be_retards.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"&gt;http://buffalobeast.com/117/let_there_be_retards.htm&lt;/a&gt;

Now I don't approve of their hijinks, but it makes an interesting story. After all, Ham worked hard to produce this theme park. I respect the effort, if not the result.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a wicked account of the Grand Opening of the Creationism Museum:<br />
<a href="http://buffalobeast.com/117/let_there_be_retards.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://buffalobeast.com/117/let_there_be_retards.htm</a></p>
<p>Now I don&#8217;t approve of their hijinks, but it makes an interesting story. After all, Ham worked hard to produce this theme park. I respect the effort, if not the result.</p>
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		<title>By: grumpypilgrim</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2007/05/22/creation-in-covington/#comment-14809</link>
		<dc:creator>grumpypilgrim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Further to Dan's mention of the Interstate signs, I don't see a problem as long as the museum meets applicable state and federal guidelines -- it's a tourist attraction just like any other.  Indeed, were the government to reject the signs, this might also be seen as a violation of the separation of church and state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Further to Dan&#8217;s mention of the Interstate signs, I don&#8217;t see a problem as long as the museum meets applicable state and federal guidelines &#8212; it&#8217;s a tourist attraction just like any other.  Indeed, were the government to reject the signs, this might also be seen as a violation of the separation of church and state.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Klarmann</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2007/05/22/creation-in-covington/#comment-14804</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Klarmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kentucky and Indiana now have Interstate signs for the Creationism Museum:
&lt;a href="http://news.cincypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071011/LIFE/710110341/1005" rel="nofollow"&gt;Cincinnati Post Article&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href="http://news.kypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071023/NEWS02/710230363/1014/NEWS02" rel="nofollow"&gt;Kentucky Post Article&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kentucky and Indiana now have Interstate signs for the Creationism Museum:<br />
<a href="http://news.cincypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071011/LIFE/710110341/1005" rel="nofollow">Cincinnati Post Article</a></p>
<p><a href="http://news.kypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071023/NEWS02/710230363/1014/NEWS02" rel="nofollow">Kentucky Post Article</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dan Klarmann</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2007/05/22/creation-in-covington/#comment-14473</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Klarmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 17:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Creation Museum inspired and emboldened another to build 
&lt;a href="http://www.wiscnews.com/pdr/news/247269" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"&gt;a museum to disprove the age of dinosaurs&lt;/a&gt; in Wisconsin.
I expect escalating displays of convincing hand-waving at hearsay "facts" to disprove other sciences as this goes on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Creation Museum inspired and emboldened another to build<br />
<a href="http://www.wiscnews.com/pdr/news/247269" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">a museum to disprove the age of dinosaurs</a> in Wisconsin.<br />
I expect escalating displays of convincing hand-waving at hearsay &#8220;facts&#8221; to disprove other sciences as this goes on.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Klarmann</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2007/05/22/creation-in-covington/#comment-14276</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Klarmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2007 17:10:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This detailed Sep '07 &lt;a href="http://www.athensnews.com/issue/article.php3?story_id=29160" rel="nofollow"&gt; review of the AiG Creationism Museum in Kentucky&lt;/a&gt; makes some great sociological points:
&lt;blockQuote&gt;Not even the museum's fiercest detractors argue that the museum shouldn't be allowed to exist. They say that upfront; it was, after all, built with private money. But they will also tell you they wish it hadn't been built.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
and
&lt;blockquote&gt;"The scientists have this ludicrous idea that it's (a debate) not worthy of any kind of consideration; we should just leave it alone," he [Edwin Kagin] said. "Well, that's not working. When no one disagrees, people think it must be true."

To ignore the Creation Museum is to give silent consent or acquiescence. It is a strategy, Kagin suggested, that allows stealth candidates with those beliefs to get elected to school boards.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
also
&lt;blockquote&gt;"You can't prove faith," Kritsky began. "If you've got a problem with your faith, if you've got to distort science in order to prop up your reasons for believing, you need to talk to your rabbi, your priest, your minister, and then talk to yourself and look at yourself on the inside. Because if that's what you have to do, distort science, then your faith's not there. And that's what this museum ultimately says."&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This detailed Sep &#8216;07 <a href="http://www.athensnews.com/issue/article.php3?story_id=29160" rel="nofollow"> review of the AiG Creationism Museum in Kentucky</a> makes some great sociological points:</p>
<blockquote><p>Not even the museum&#8217;s fiercest detractors argue that the museum shouldn&#8217;t be allowed to exist. They say that upfront; it was, after all, built with private money. But they will also tell you they wish it hadn&#8217;t been built.</p></blockquote>
<p>and</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;The scientists have this ludicrous idea that it&#8217;s (a debate) not worthy of any kind of consideration; we should just leave it alone,&#8221; he [Edwin Kagin] said. &#8220;Well, that&#8217;s not working. When no one disagrees, people think it must be true.&#8221;</p>
<p>To ignore the Creation Museum is to give silent consent or acquiescence. It is a strategy, Kagin suggested, that allows stealth candidates with those beliefs to get elected to school boards.</p></blockquote>
<p>also</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;You can&#8217;t prove faith,&#8221; Kritsky began. &#8220;If you&#8217;ve got a problem with your faith, if you&#8217;ve got to distort science in order to prop up your reasons for believing, you need to talk to your rabbi, your priest, your minister, and then talk to yourself and look at yourself on the inside. Because if that&#8217;s what you have to do, distort science, then your faith&#8217;s not there. And that&#8217;s what this museum ultimately says.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
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		<title>By: Erich Vieth</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2007/05/22/creation-in-covington/#comment-14052</link>
		<dc:creator>Erich Vieth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 18:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For a detailed description of what one "learns" at the Creation Museum, consider this account:  http://www.thesmartset.com/article/article08060707.aspx</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a detailed description of what one &#8220;learns&#8221; at the Creation Museum, consider this account:  <a href="http://www.thesmartset.com/article/article08060707.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.thesmartset.com/article/article08060707.aspx</a></p>
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		<title>By: Erich Vieth</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2007/05/22/creation-in-covington/#comment-14051</link>
		<dc:creator>Erich Vieth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 18:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here's a slide show tour of the Creation Museum.  I notice that the museum isn't called the Creation Science Museum, presumably due to the lack of real science.  http://www.thesmartset.com/files/flash/Reportage/RE_SMITH_CREATION_FL/RE_SMITH_CREATION_FL_001.swf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a slide show tour of the Creation Museum.  I notice that the museum isn&#8217;t called the Creation Science Museum, presumably due to the lack of real science.  <a href="http://www.thesmartset.com/files/flash/Reportage/RE_SMITH_CREATION_FL/RE_SMITH_CREATION_FL_001.swf" rel="nofollow">http://www.thesmartset.com/files/flash/Reportage/RE_SMITH_CREATION_FL/RE_SMITH_CREATION_FL_001.swf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Erich Vieth</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2007/05/22/creation-in-covington/#comment-14039</link>
		<dc:creator>Erich Vieth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 05:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here's a cartoon from Gary Trudeau. Topic: creationism. &lt;a href="http://images.ucomics.com/comics/db/2006/db060702.gif "&gt;Here's the link.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a cartoon from Gary Trudeau. Topic: creationism. <a href="http://images.ucomics.com/comics/db/2006/db060702.gif ">Here&#8217;s the link.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dan Klarmann</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2007/05/22/creation-in-covington/#comment-14019</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Klarmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here's the direct opposite of our site: &lt;a href="http://www.crosswalk.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"&gt;www.crosswalk.com&lt;/a&gt;. I found it during my regular survey of articles about the Creationism Museum. &lt;a href="http://www.crosswalk.com/news/religiontoday/11552138/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow"&gt;Here is theirs&lt;/a&gt;. This Ken Ham museum article makes it sound as though even the protesters grant the museum its truth.

I looked at the root of the site (linked above) and found that it is also warning of the Dangerous Intersection of Faith and Life, from the point of view that one with&lt;b&gt;out&lt;/b&gt; the other is dangerous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s the direct opposite of our site: <a href="http://www.crosswalk.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.crosswalk.com</a>. I found it during my regular survey of articles about the Creationism Museum. <a href="http://www.crosswalk.com/news/religiontoday/11552138/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Here is theirs</a>. This Ken Ham museum article makes it sound as though even the protesters grant the museum its truth.</p>
<p>I looked at the root of the site (linked above) and found that it is also warning of the Dangerous Intersection of Faith and Life, from the point of view that one with<b>out</b> the other is dangerous.</p>
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		<title>By: Erich Vieth</title>
		<link>http://dangerousintersection.org/2007/05/22/creation-in-covington/#comment-13971</link>
		<dc:creator>Erich Vieth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 03:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Folks are trying to raise money to put a Unicorn Museum billboard near the Creationism Museum. After all, the King James Bible mentions unicorns three times:

Job 39:9-12: "Will the unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib? Canst thou bind the unicorn with band in the furrow? or will he harrow the valleys after thee? Wilt thou trust him, because his strength is great? or wilt thou leave thy labour to him? Wilt thou believe him, that he will bring home thy seed, and gather it into thy barn?"

Psalms 29:6: "He maketh them also to skip like a calf; Lebanon and Sirion like a young unicorn."

Numbers 24:8: " . . . he hath as it were the strength of a unicorn."

See http://www.unicornmuseum.org/ and &lt;a href="http://www.unicornmuseum.org/wp/about"&gt;http://www.unicornmuseum.org/wp/about&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Folks are trying to raise money to put a Unicorn Museum billboard near the Creationism Museum. After all, the King James Bible mentions unicorns three times:</p>
<p>Job 39:9-12: &#8220;Will the unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib? Canst thou bind the unicorn with band in the furrow? or will he harrow the valleys after thee? Wilt thou trust him, because his strength is great? or wilt thou leave thy labour to him? Wilt thou believe him, that he will bring home thy seed, and gather it into thy barn?&#8221;</p>
<p>Psalms 29:6: &#8220;He maketh them also to skip like a calf; Lebanon and Sirion like a young unicorn.&#8221;</p>
<p>Numbers 24:8: &#8221; . . . he hath as it were the strength of a unicorn.&#8221;</p>
<p>See <a href="http://www.unicornmuseum.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.unicornmuseum.org/</a> and <a href="http://www.unicornmuseum.org/wp/about">http://www.unicornmuseum.org/wp/about</a></p>
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